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I'd recommend something like a G100s (or any of its shell cousins like Rx250) for office comfort. Also cheap.
the main buttons on the G100s are prone to various problems tho

Don't worry about the buttons, they can easily be replaced with newer, better models of omrons or huanos yessir.gif .
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Don't worry about the buttons, they can easily be replaced with newer, better models of omrons or huanos yessir.gif .
Its sort of a shell problem too. I have had two and both squeaks.
post #13 of 35
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What to pick?! What to pick?!

post #14 of 35
Does anyone else look at the shape of the g303 and just get a little perturbed?

Ive had three of those. The abyssus, the g303 and the kpm. The issue with the 303 is the pointy sides. I kept changing my grip over and over to try and make it comfortable and it made it difficult to get used to it.

The abyssus I could not get it to stop jittering and skipping on any mousepad that I owned, and you have to have synapse installed if you want to use any other dpi setting than 1600.

The KPM has some sort of DPI increase issue where if you lift the mouse off for a long time the DPI either scales up, or down, I forget which direction it goes to. If you comb through the thread you'll find people saying that setting the surface calibration to on stops it. Other people say that setting it to normal or high fixes it, or makes it worse, or whatever, so if you want to deal with that whole business more power to you.
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Does anyone else look at the shape of the g303 and just get a little perturbed?

Ive had three of those. The abyssus, the g303 and the kpm. The issue with the 303 is the pointy sides. I kept changing my grip over and over to try and make it comfortable and it made it difficult to get used to it.

The abyssus I could not get it to stop jittering and skipping on any mousepad that I owned, and you have to have synapse installed if you want to use any other dpi setting than 1600.

The KPM has some sort of DPI increase issue where if you lift the mouse off for a long time the DPI either scales up, or down, I forget which direction it goes to. If you comb through the thread you'll find people saying that setting the surface calibration to on stops it. Other people say that setting it to normal or high fixes it, or makes it worse, or whatever, so if you want to deal with that whole business more power to you.

So in the end which one have you kept?

If were to pick 3 in no particular order I would go for Diamondback, Zowie EC2, Kinzu V3.
post #16 of 35
I find that people with a smaller hand ~17-18cm would prefer an ec2-a. People with larger hands prefer the finalmouse/deathadder shape. When someone has a larger hand and uses a smaller mouse, their skin seems to get clipped when mousing, and may cramp (with mice like the m60, rival, fk1).

When you have a smaller hand and use a larger mouse like the deathadder, finalmouse, you may get wrist cramps/ finger cramps.

All of this I think comes down to to the way you personally handle your mouse and grip style. But I find this to be a trend with me.

As a person with a smaller hand the ec2 shape is very comfortable. I have never had the same comfort with the DA/Rival/Finalmouse/m60/g303/fk1. The deathadder and finalmouse came close. But after very long sessions, I would get an occasional pain.

Hope this helps.
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post #17 of 35
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I find that people with a smaller hand ~17-18cm would prefer an ec2-a. People with larger hands prefer the finalmouse/deathadder shape. When someone has a larger hand and uses a smaller mouse, their skin seems to get clipped when mousing, and may cramp (with mice like the m60, rival, fk1).

When you have a smaller hand and use a larger mouse like the deathadder, finalmouse, you may get wrist cramps/ finger cramps.

All of this I think comes down to to the way you personally handle your mouse and grip style. But I find this to be a trend with me.

As a person with a smaller hand the ec2 shape is very comfortable. I have never had the same comfort with the DA/Rival/Finalmouse/m60/g303/fk1. The deathadder and finalmouse came close. But after very long sessions, I would get an occasional pain.

Hope this helps.

Absolutely, like I said EC2 is one of my favourites. I also have smaller, I guess, hands... in the area of ~17cm. The only thing I am worried is the placement of the scroll whell - which I use intensely during the day. Next to that my biggest worry is the height of the mouse buttons, and most of all the scroll wheel again. Both of which might get in the way of a genuinely comfortable experience with the mouse. I am at the moment using Xornet but get intense cramps. However the middle click is a pleasure to use on it - almost feels like a dedicated third button.

The Castor - I've heard onlygood things, but I can almost be sure that the sharp ridge on the right side of the mouse will be a disaster in actual use.
The Diamondback is not available yet in my region.
The kinzu... keeping it as my last option.

I'm just curious if you would add any other mice to that collection?
post #18 of 35
I don't have any personal experience with the Castor or Diamondback.

But the EC2 and finalmouse are quite good FOR ME, you have even smaller hands than me at 17cm flat. So I wouldn't recommend the finalmouse, as it will feel similar to the DA. Maybe try the G402 or the Zowie ZA11/12/13 ambidextrous if the ec2 isn't ideal. I am sure one of these would fit your hand perfect due to the varying sizes. The mouse buttons are a bit lower than the ec series, however lower mouse buttons tend to make people grip the mouse differently.
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So in the end which one have you kept?

If were to pick 3 in no particular order I would go for Diamondback, Zowie EC2, Kinzu V3.

I haven't settled on one yet. I've been switching between an old krait 2013, savu, and now im fingertip gripping a g502. I tend to prefer a little width, but not so much height. The sensei is pretty much my perfect shape, but the za12 etc., were way too tall to mimic that so I returned those as well.
post #20 of 35
Want to throw some alernatives into the discussion. If you're talking about stress reduction and ergonomic input devices, you should take a look at (no particular order):
  • RollerMouse
  • Vertical mouse
  • Trackball

I have a CST trackball which is nice when you don't have to be super precise. Old colleague of mine used a vertial mouse by Evoluent at the time, tried it once and felt very natural for the lower arm, but my hands were too small for the model in question. Maybe they have other sizes. The build quality was only mediocre though (go to Amazon and read some reviews about the coating and clicks).

What you take depends on your needs and what you feel comfortable with. Also if your work requires you to use the keyboard a lot, get a decent ergonomic one (like a Kinesis, ErgoDox, DataHand, there is a new one coming out from Matias).

You should maybe say a bit more about what your work implies. What do you do for work? Do you need precision, because you're controlling a rocket shooting drone? Some kind of CAD, modelling or maybe remote sensing? Or are you working for civil service and playing Minesweeper all day long?
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