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Can't get UD3P to post in a Phantom 530. Works fine in my old HAF

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I triple-checked the standoff placement before mounting originally and the same number of standoffs are there as in the other board.

Here's how things went:

1) Had a working build in HAF

2) Moved build to Phantom and added water loop

3) Won't start at all... troubleshooting... figured out that I had the PCI-e connectors upside-down. buttkick.gif

4) Now the machine starts up but I get no video. Tried everything. Multiple GPUs. CMOS reset. Different RAM. One stick of RAM. Loosening block screws. Loosening fittings on block. You name it, I probably tried it more than once. I even tried replacing the motherboard screws with the ones that were in the HAF (those don't make good contact with most of the standoffs in the Phantom).

5) Reassembled loop inside and outside of HAF (partially outside for quicker assembly/disassembly). Now the computer boots and runs normally.

Yes, I used the full rubber grommet for the block.

The worst part of this is that I have to reassemble the entire loop just to see if the board will post, because of the liquid metal TIM (can't use the stock cooler). rolleyes.gif


It must have something to do with:

a) The case shipped with two RESET SW front panel headers and no POWER header. Oops. I don't think this is the issue since I figured out which one switches the PSU on. However, it's odd because it will only switch on after I press it when the PSU has its own switch in the off position, then I switch the PSU to on, then it comes on if I press the case power button.

b) The standoffs

c) The thick rubber tubing pressing the block too much when I close the case door

d) I didn't connect the case's fans or fan controller to a molex. Would that interfere with the power switch operation?

I can't think of anything else at this point.


Any suggestions? I really don't want to reassemble everything only to find that it won't post again because of the standoffs. But, they're labeled on the inside of the case itself and the only ones there are the nine ATX ones.
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Try jumping the motherboard with no switches hooked up. Use a screw driver to cross the pins for the power switch. Could be a reset switch just wont work right on your motherboards pw pins.
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Assuming the motherboard hasn't been damaged by some electrostatic discharge locally, while you were handling it, i 've had some cases like this and the only solution was to do everything from scratch. Remove all standoffs, put them back assuring they are all equally screwed on the case (same height), that there is no "extra" standoff shorting the motherboard, that the alighnment with the i/o shield is perfect and it usually works.
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Assuming the motherboard hasn't been damaged by some electrostatic discharge locally, while you were handling it, i 've had some cases like this and the only solution was to do everything from scratch. Remove all standoffs, put them back assuring they are all equally screwed on the case (same height), that there is no "extra" standoff shorting the motherboard, that the alighnment with the i/o shield is perfect and it usually works.
Thanks for the responses, guys. I actually switched all the standoffs yesterday later after posting this because I didn't want to have the no post problem again. It took care of it although it was a lot of work. The HAF standoffs are smaller. Maybe the larger ones in the Phantom are too large for the motherboard?

There weren't any extra standoffs in odd locations. I had triple checked that before doing the install the first time. Ironically, there were only nine standoffs in the Phantom and eleven installed in the HAF. So I added the extras when I switched them. Maybe the extras helped to keep the board from bending? The board is working fine, now. (Although the VRMs are still a big heat problem which I'm going to have to deal with if I want to get past 4.5 with Prime.)

The issue with the case having shipped with two RESET SW plugs and no POWER SW plug is just the fact that someone used the wrong label. One of them is the power switch. The actual reset plug also works.
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Thanks for the responses, guys. I actually switched all the standoffs yesterday later after posting this because I didn't want to have the no post problem again. It took care of it although it was a lot of work. The HAF standoffs are smaller. Maybe the larger ones in the Phantom are too large for the motherboard?

There weren't any extra standoffs in odd locations. I had triple checked that before doing the install the first time. Ironically, there were only nine standoffs in the Phantom and eleven installed in the HAF. So I added the extras when I switched them. Maybe the extras helped to keep the board from bending? The board is working fine, now. (Although the VRMs are still a big heat problem which I'm going to have to deal with if I want to get past 4.5 with Prime.)

The issue with the case having shipped with two RESET SW plugs and no POWER SW plug is just the fact that someone used the wrong label. One of them is the power switch. The actual reset plug also works.

Glad you sorted it out. It's very annoying, i know... I don't even know what's happening, but now i am paranoid about perfect alignment and equal standoff height. It seems that if the motherboard sits looser on some standoffs, then you have this type of odd local short circuit.

This mislabeling the power sw headers is something new! LOL! Never heard of it before. Thank God it's just a mislabelling...
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