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We already had 980 which is a mid range GPU

I don't think mid range means what you think it means.
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Of you can reduce async in order to get less visuals but better performance, it is totally legit.
If there is a forced bump to async in order to target nvidia and forcefully reduce performance only on nvidia cards, than I think it will only be fair if gameworks forcefully do the same thing to AMD.
No? Won't that be fair? Since I have nvidia, the same as about 80% of the market, I will vote for yes.

Then all the AMD owning foolish people will eat their hats, and 80% of the market will just go "meh, who cares about you?".
Then things will really get interesting smile.gif

What are you talking about? Nvidia already use Gameworks against AMD, that was the point of my post.. I can post tons of evidence of how Gameworks hurts AMD's performance. Like Gameworks titles having ridiculous amounts tessellation that offer no fidelity advantage whatsoever, be it on Nvidia cards or AMD ones. All that stuff has been talked about to death, so i won't bother.

Again, Nvidia don't have 80% of total market share, i'm not sure why so many of you are confused about that. It's quarterly sales from AIB's, not a reflection of the total market. Do you really think less than 20% of PC gamers have AMD cards? Nvidia is currently a far stronger brand, but AMD still has a lot of product out there.

Async inherently gives better performance, it takes advantage of parallel architectures (which Nvidia doesn't have). That's the point of it, i'm not sure what you're trying to say there..
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I don't think mid range means what you think it means.
He definitely doesn't know the definition of a mid-range GPU.
GTX 960 = Midrange
HD R9 280x = midrange
post #114 of 163
Wow all this entitlement rage and GPU envy over a unsubstantiated comment on WCCF about something that may or may not happen in the future. Its going to be a long 2 weeks...
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in bringing singular platform specific shaders to the PC,

This is an interesting observation. Can you please expand on this a bit further, particularly the "singular platform" part and whether it broadly means Nvidia platform, or is it specific to the latest generation of high end Nvidia GPUs? tks

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1. 4 way SLI was never upscaling very high anyway.
2. When witcher 3 came out, titan was old tech. We already had 980 which is a mid range GPU (let alone the 980 TI and titan X), which could out perform the old first gen titan. Even in 4K. That is life. No one promised you that 4 way SLI titans will keep your performance competitive and run all new graphics tech forever.
3. Witcher 3 at start had driver issues on both AMD and Nvidia.
4. You could disable gameworks tech.
5. First gen titan came 2 years before witcher 3. Again, yeah, it was old tech.

1. I know;
2. Yep, really old tech (including sli and tri sli) and that goes for the Titan Black, Ti, Titan Z etc released within a few months of the "mid range" 980 Maxwell on the same 28 nm node. Competitive relative to what, the new NV gpus, or even older AMD gpus? lol - besides, I already stated mea culpa for my GPUs... ;
3. And, Nvidia acknowledged the performance hit on the GK 110/Kepler cards, after much negative feedback from its customers (by the way you can thank Silent Scone above for bending someone's ear at nvidia to get the fix out sooner rather than later).
4. I know, but why with 2, three or four Titans? If I can't run it with that much gpu grunt, I don't want to play it
5. How about 780Ti, or Titan Black? Just trying to understand when is a $600 - $1000 Nvidia GPU too old (useful life) to effectively run Nvidia sponsored games with eye candy, so I can handicap the next theoretical GPU purchase without the mea culpa..... lol
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Pretty simple really. Platform, therefore PC - supplied by the vendor for the vendors hardware. In other words, without it - the specific shader wouldn't exist in the game and you'd be none the wiser. Ergo sense of entitlement not justified
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Pretty simple really. Platform, therefore PC - supplied by the vendor for the vendors hardware. In other words, without it - the specific shader wouldn't exist in the game and you'd be none the wiser. Ergo sense of entitlement not justified

I am fine with a feature not being there, if it hampers my performance, and the only way to take advantage of it is to get the latest and greatest hardware every few months from the vendor that is introducing the "shader specifics" for betterment of all pc master race. In other words, back to the console peasantry from me..... lol. I do wonder if turning off the performance crippling shaders would remain an option in a GFE only environment...

No one is entitled to anything. People spend the money on hardware that they have earned, and then they have to live with their purchase decisions. As they say, once the money is spent, there is no use in crying over spilled milk. However, I do think that the "user forums" are distinguished from the vendor forums in that users can get better educated about their purchase decisions; including the decision not to buy , rather than just "what to buy next" discussions, or having to complain about something that is incorrectly perceived as entitlement by the vendors. By the same token, Nvidia or Amd are not obliged to hear out their respective customers' issues, if they choose not to, on a vendor specific forum.
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Took Witcher 3 until patch 1.07 to add gameworks sliders to config. Hopefully Fallout 4 will have that at launch.
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Why is this STILL going on? For one thing its WCCF, how about you wait till Bethesda or Nvidia announce something.
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/541?vs=548 < the 550 ti gets destroyed...You're right I was wrong, but it's only because the HD7870 is getting more than double the FPS as the 550ti. thumb.gif


GTX 550 ti = HD7750...At best...

The 550 ti is far weaker than what's even in a PS4...
Just trying to prevent you from using GPUboss as a reference it's so bad. Basically a card from 2004 with 128SPs would be equal to a single SMX of Nvidia's Maxwell architecture by there higher number is better comparison.

Doesn't really matter who is right or wrong but we should agree GPUboss is horrible thumb.gif
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