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Hey guys, so I know this may seem like a silly idea, but I still want to do it. At this point it's almost personal.

Was playing around trying to OC this processor on an MSI A55-P33 motherboard. I know that neither the processor or motherboard in question are any good, I still want to try now. It's been a long time since i've done any overclocking, at least 5 years.

I was playing around in the bios, and noticed that i was able to run the multiplier at 40x for what should have been a 4ghz clock rate. The computer ran no problem at 4ghz, everything says it's running at 4ghz, but i'm pretty certain it isn''t actually running at that clock rate. From what i've read online it has a locked multiplier. Which seems strange, because from what i remember if a card had a locked multiplier it wouldn't even allow you to touch it in the bios. The main reason i don't think this is actually the frequency it's running at is because there is absolutely no difference in any benchmark tests. Exactly the same results at 2.5ghz and the supposed 4ghz.

So, i tried the only other way i knew, increasing the bus frequency. This causes the computer to crash if i even increase it by 1 mhz. Regardless if i try changing it from the MSI program on windows, or in the bios. If i do so in the bios, the computer won't even start back up and i have to reset the bios by taking out the battery. What's causing this?

Don't really want to give up, not doing it for performance gain anymore, i just want it done.
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Something about the APU processors, it may allow OC settings in BIOS, but if it's not a Ax-xxxxK processor (IE: A4-3300K), it will keep stock clocks in the OS. Set your OC in BIOS and see what windows reports your CPU speed to be.

I ran into this same problem a year or so ago when I thought I was overclocking my A4-3400 to 4Ghz rolleyes.gif
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That was what i found strange. When i changed the multiplier in windows it wouldn't change the frequency that windows told me. When i changed it in the bios though windows would show it as 3998mhz.

All the benchmarks i tried were the same though as at 2.5.
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Heh, just noticed, you're running the exact same mobo I am biggrin.gif
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What a coincidence lol.

Back when i bought it for a HTPC worked great for what i needed it for and it was super cheap.

Was hoping to get a new motherboard, processor and graphics card soon and start playing some games again since this laptop is starting to show its age. I was hoping to squeeze a bit more power out of this processor and buy a graphics card first and keep using this cpu until i could afford a new one and a motherboard.

Looks like i'll just be waiting though. This thing is tragically slow.
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Yea, it's not much good for more than regular use, although I can't imagine it would be totally useless paired with a decent video card.
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I'm sure it wouldn't be totally useless, but i have a feeling the i7 2670QM and the GT555m in my laptop would probably outperform the A4-3300 and say, a R9 380.
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This is a well known bug, known as "Empty overclocking".

When I had an A4-3400 I could raise the multiplier as well, but it wouldn't give an impact in benchmarks.

Still, you can overclock using the base clock. I managed a 3,4Ghz overclock. You might need to switch to IDE-mode however, otherwise you can't boot. thumb.gif
Edited by Flash831 - 10/25/15 at 8:04am
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Have you tried dropping the ram speed before increasing the bus frequency? Also maybe give the cpu a little more voltage?
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This is a well known bug, known as "[http://www.passmark.com/forum/showthread.php?3580-AMD-Llano-fake-overclocking-A4-A6-A8]Empty overclocking[/URL]".

When I had an A4-3400 I could raise the multiplier as well, but it wouldn't give an impact in benchmarks.

Still, you can overclock using the base clock. I managed a 3,4Ghz overclock. You might need to switch to IDE-mode however, otherwise you can't boot. thumb.gif
Ah thanks, I'll try that. Probably what my problem was.
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XPS L702X
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770s 3.1Ghz Gigabyte B85M-D3V RX480 8gb 16GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
128GB SanDisk SDSSDHP128G Matshita DVD-Ram Stock Windows 10 Pro 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G19 APEVIA ATX-AP900W Cooler Master Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i7-2670QM GT555M 8GB  2 x Seagate 7200RPM 500GB 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
BluRay combo drive Windows 7 Premium 17" Laptop + 24" 1920x1080 Dell Backlit laptop keyboard 
Case
XPS L702X 
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