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The 140mm Extended Range Vardar is 23 comparatively, so 5 fans later you saved 35 right there. Tests conducted by thermalbench.com show the Vardar pushing ~365 ft/min @ 40db (through a radiator) and the PPC 2k performs about the same. In the end you pay more for industrial certifications you don't need for the same performance.

That's maybe true in general but in my case, the EK Vardar F4 140mm is not available yet? here? and I need the fans this weekend to build my rig. Thanks to a good friend I was able to get each PPC fan for 12€ so the money aspect is thrown out of the window thumb.gif
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That's maybe true in general but in my case, the EK Vardar F4 140mm is not available yet? here? and I need the fans this weekend to build my rig. Thanks to a good friend I was able to get each PPC fan for 12€ so the money aspect is thrown out of the window thumb.gif

Yeah that's a steal. thumb.gif
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I was thinking of getting the define S but after reading this I'll probably skip it. I'm strictly going for air cooling and I always did wonder about the back being sealed up and how it could effect the temperatures.

My other choice is the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M. What would you rate this case for air cooling?
Phanteks cases are very good. I have two now and plan to get more. But the Enthoo Pro M is more for water cooling. The regular Enthoo Pro has almost as big a front vent and a bottom one as well, no divider between mobo and PSU, same open back.

Fractal Design Arc midi R2 seems to be in the shadow of Define S, but in many ways it is a better case.. It is (WxHxD): 230 x 460 x 515mm, 2x front 140mm, 1x bottom, 140mm 1x 140mm back, and 3x top 140mm. With 2x front, 1x bottom and 1x front on top intakes with top middle vent blocked there is unbeatable cool airflow to all components. With good fans no exhaust fans would be needed and intake could run at low speed .. more fans at low speed move as much air as less fans at higher speed.
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Fractal Design Arc midi R2 seems to be in the shadow of Define S, but in many ways it is a better case.. It is (WxHxD): 230 x 460 x 515mm, 2x front 140mm, 1x bottom, 140mm 1x 140mm back, and 3x top 140mm. With 2x front, 1x bottom and 1x front on top intakes with top middle vent blocked there is unbeatable cool airflow to all components. With good fans no exhaust fans would be needed and intake could run at low speed .. more fans at low speed move as much air as less fans at higher speed.

Fractal Design S got the same possibilities tongue.gif?

But 3x front 1x bottom >> 1 bottom, 2 front, 1 top?
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Phanteks cases are very good. I have two now and plan to get more. But the Enthoo Pro M is more for water cooling. The regular Enthoo Pro has almost as big a front vent and a bottom one as well, no divider between mobo and PSU, same open back.

Fractal Design Arc midi R2 seems to be in the shadow of Define S, but in many ways it is a better case.. It is (WxHxD): 230 x 460 x 515mm, 2x front 140mm, 1x bottom, 140mm 1x 140mm back, and 3x top 140mm. With 2x front, 1x bottom and 1x front on top intakes with top middle vent blocked there is unbeatable cool airflow to all components. With good fans no exhaust fans would be needed and intake could run at low speed .. more fans at low speed move as much air as less fans at higher speed.

That is very interesting. So you are saying that the fractal design arc midi r2 beats out the enthoo pro m and the define S in terms of air cooling?
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That is very interesting. So you are saying that the fractal design arc midi r2 beats out the enthoo pro m and the define S in terms of air cooling?
I can see advantages the Arc Midi R2 has the others do not, but I have not tested any of them so cannot say for a fact which is best. Most case stock fans are not all that good. Phanteks PH-F140SP are quite good. Older FD fans were not so good, but I don't know about newer ones.
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I can see advantages the Arc Midi R2 has the others do not, but I have not tested any of them so cannot say for a fact which is best. Most case stock fans are not all that good. Phanteks PH-F140SP are quite good. Older FD fans were not so good, but I don't know about newer ones.

Could you clarify what advantages the arc midi r2 has over the phanteks enthoo pro/m or the fractal design S? Don't all these cases have similar dimensions and fan placements?

Going to be buying a new case very soon so I want to make the best decision as it is going to last me a very long time.
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Could you clarify what advantages the arc midi r2 has over the phanteks enthoo pro/m or the fractal design S? Don't all these cases have similar dimensions and fan placements?

Going to be buying a new case very soon so I want to make the best decision as it is going to last me a very long time.
I did that in post 43. If you need more clarification look at them. Look at where their vents and fans are, what restriction there is to airflow, and which vent & fan combinations give the straightest flow of cool intake air to components and the best direct flow of their heated exhaust out of the case with the least chance of contamination from their heated exhaust air.
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Could you clarify what advantages the arc midi r2 has over the phanteks enthoo pro/m or the fractal design S? Don't all these cases have similar dimensions and fan placements?

Going to be buying a new case very soon so I want to make the best decision as it is going to last me a very long time.

Lot of great cases really, alot of it boils down to nitpicking and 5-10 C that can be fixed with additional fans, holes or what not.

Ultimately you pick a balance of cooling and noise, and decide if you are going to aircool or water cool.

My nitpicking list and notes to date are:

Optimizing for Quiet (air cooled and keep top covers on. If need topless go for higher airflow case):
  • Define R5, great case Little more designed for silent. Upgrade List: buy 3 fans, better pic-e vents remove all drive cages
  • Define S, great case, great front airflow, back sealed up a bit more than I like. Upgrade List: buy x4 fans, better pci-e vents and drillout back solid grill by gpu
  • Mastercase 5: more for airflow will need mods to make quieter. Upgrade List: buy 3 fans, buy "Maker 5 solid top" when it comes out, add side insulation if needed, remove all drive cages



Optimizing more for Airflow:
  • Phanteks Enthoo Pro M: Nice Airflow, front filter allows dust in from side. Upgrade List: Buy 2 Fans (they give you one usable one)
  • Fractal Design MIDI R2: Nice Airflow, fans look to be older models Upgrade List: test fans that come with it, likely replace

Thermaltake has a few models with good airflow but they did a tad too much copying the big kids for me to want to sponser them
Edited by BigHotAndLoud - 10/28/15 at 6:24pm
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Should also take a look at the Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX and NZXT Noctis 450. Both have the option for 3 front fans.
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