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Stock and up to 4Ghz (which you should overclock to anyway, trust me), you won't have problem with UD3P, because they all said that the troubles start beyond that. Take the UD3P then.

Overclocking these CPUs to 4Ghz is very easy and you 're not putting too much stress on the motherboard. The UD3P can take the stress anyway. Don't stay at 3.2Ghz. At 4Ghz you are simply running like 8350 at stock. So nothing too exagerated. It's what i do too.



right well i can do the research on how to over clock that when i have the system i just didnt wanna deal with have to update bios to put cpu into the board


so ty lots biggrin.gif <3
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right well i can do the research on how to over clock that when i have the system i just didnt wanna deal with have to update bios to put cpu into the board


so ty lots biggrin.gif <3

Rev 2, which is what you will probably get, supports 8320E since the first BIOS. So no worries there. The weak point is that the BIOS is still somewhat buggy for overclocking and that the UEFI is ugly and convoluted. But otherwise it's a very good motherboard.

When you get everything and set it up, come back here to the forum and you will be at 4Ghz in no time and with no risks. The CPU cooler that Painkiller picked for you, is made for clocks beyond 4.5Ghz, so you must at least go to 4Ghz to make your money worth! biggrin.gif Otherwise it's overkill. Frankly, even for 4Ghz it's overkill, but it will be very quiet.

To overclock to 4Ghz, you just need to disable turbo, APM, raise multi to x20 and then find a voltage with stresstesting. It should be around 1.25v i guess. You will be there in no time, don't stay at 3.2.
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Rev 2, which is what you will probably get, supports 8320E since the first BIOS. So no worries there. The weak point is that the BIOS is still somewhat buggy for overclocking and that the UEFI is ugly and convoluted. But otherwise it's a very good motherboard.

When you get everything and set it up, come back here to the forum and you will be at 4Ghz in no time and with no risks. The CPU cooler that Painkiller picked for you, is made for clocks beyond 4.5Ghz, so you must at least go to 4Ghz to make your money worth! biggrin.gif Otherwise it's overkill. Frankly, even for 4Ghz it's overkill, but it will be very quiet.

To overclock to 4Ghz, you just need to disable turbo, APM, raise multi to x20 and then find a voltage with stresstesting. It should be around 1.25v i guess. You will be there in no time, don't stay at 3.2.



yeah its rev 2 and ty so much for that thats really good to know smile.gif


also ok cool i will come back for sure yeah will try a 4ghz overclock smile.gif


thanks for all the help <3 rep++++++ biggrin.gif
post #14 of 33
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yeah its rev 2 and ty so much for that thats really good to know smile.gif


also ok cool i will come back for sure yeah will try a 4ghz overclock smile.gif


Yeah, all these AMD CPUs are unlocked. So it's implied as part of the price, the "extra" benefit of the certainty to overclock. And 4ghz is nothing stressful for these CPUs, as it's just the 8350 stock clock. Simply, there were many users that had bought very weak motherboards, that couldn't properly run FX8320 or 8350. So they were pretty much stuck with FX4300/6300. AMD saw this clientele as an opportunity and decided to release the "e" models with 95W TDP, which can be run in those weaker motherboards too at stock clock. But your motherboard is not weak. It has the same VRM as the Gigabyte 990FX UD3. Basically, it's overcloker's motherboard. So going to 4Ghz is no problem. You will actually be slighly lower than 125W TDP, because the "e" chips, which Painkiller wisely adviced you, take less voltage to overclock than the older models (such as the 8320 that i have). So there is no reason not to go to 4Ghz, since you get the hardware to go much higher than that.
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Yeah, all these AMD CPUs are unlocked. So it's implied as part of the price, the "extra" benefit of the certainty to overclock. And 4ghz is nothing stressful for these CPUs, as it's just the 8350 stock clock. Simply, there were many users that had bought very weak motherboards, that couldn't properly run FX8320 or 8350. So they were pretty much stuck with FX4300/6300. AMD saw this clientele as an opportunity and decided to release the "e" models with 95W TDP, which can be run in those weaker motherboards too at stock clock. But your motherboard is not weak. It has the same VRM as the Gigabyte 990FX UD3. Basically, it's overcloker's motherboard. So going to 4Ghz is no problem. You will actually be slighly lower than 125W TDP, because the "e" chips, which Painkiller wisely adviced you, take less voltage to overclock than the older models (such as the 8320 that i have). So there is no reason not to go to 4Ghz, since you get the hardware to go much higher than that.



ok cool ty biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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At least until someone comes back to the forum to say "i overclocked with rev2 past 4.2 with no problems, using multi".
I've been on 4.5 GHz with that board for quite some time. The big issue is the VRM cooling. Even at 4.5 it's not easy to keep the sink cool enough when running Prime.
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I've been on 4.5 GHz with that board for quite some time. The big issue is the VRM cooling. Even at 4.5 it's not easy to keep the sink cool enough when running Prime.

So, the problems of Bonami with the multi don't apply in your case? You can go past 22 multi? I passed IBT at 4.5 on rev1 without any VRM cooling, but i have top-down cooler. I also started at 4.8 IBT, but i aborted because my temps were rising too high. But i didn't check VRM temps. Also, maybe your thermal pad isn't in the best shape and switching it could be beneficial (or put new VRM heatsink altogether from thermaright or something).
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So, the problems of Bonami with the multi don't apply in your case? You can go past 22 multi? I passed IBT at 4.5 on rev1 without any VRM cooling, but i have top-down cooler. I also started at 4.8 IBT, but i aborted because my temps were rising too high. But i didn't check VRM temps. Also, maybe your thermal pad isn't in the best shape and switching it could be beneficial (or put new VRM heatsink altogether from thermaright or something).
I am not 100% sure about the high multi issue. I haven't done enough testing yet. I know it has problems at 5 GHz. But, although The Stilt does not like BCLK overclocking I had stability with a 20 multi and 225 BCLK, taking me to 4.5 GHz.

The VRM sink is awful. I am definitely going to do something. The Stilt had a suggestion about replacing the thermal pad with paste, lapping the sink, and replacing the "push pins with insulated screws." The last part in quotes I'm not sure about. I could be misremembering the push pin thing since only the northbridge on this board uses them. I need to look back at my old "UD3P questions" post.
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I am not 100% sure about the high multi issue. I haven't done enough testing yet. I know it has problems at 5 GHz. But, although The Stilt does not like BCLK overclocking I had stability with a 20 multi and 225 BCLK, taking me to 4.5 GHz.

The VRM sink is awful. I am definitely going to do something. The Stilt had a suggestion about replacing the thermal pad with paste, lapping the sink, and replacing the "push pins with insulated screws." The last part in quotes I'm not sure about. I could be misremembering the push pin thing since only the northbridge on this board uses them. I need to look back at my old "UD3P questions" post.

If you find time, try to see if you can overclock to say 4.3 with multi only. We need to find out what's happening with this motherboard, because it's the usual proposal for cheap overclocking rigs. IRush was the first to complain with 2 UD3P rev2. Bonami is the 2nd. I don't like this.


I think in rev 1 the VRM heatsink is using screws and springs. If yours doesn't have springs, but push pins, you will have some trouble... When i removed the pad from the heatsink of Asrock 970 i applied paste, because i didn't have a pad. But the heatsink became more loose, because the pad's thickness was now missing. The ceramique being viscous, "glued" it, but if you push an edge with your finger, you can detached somewhat the heatsink. So be sure you look at the back before removing the pad. Because you wouldn't want to have loose VRM heatsink for high clocks. If it has springs, then it's likely you can tighten the screws more and be ok. But push pins can be a problem.
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