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As far as fan noise goes there's absolutely no point in having them stop completely (well, dust intake, I suppose), at least when talking about 120mm fans. I'm fairly anal about noise as well (PSU twice as powerful so the fan never spins, no mechanical drives, SSD only, replaced the stock cooling on GPU...), and I've got Noiseblocker Multiframes running in my system. The M12-PS variant is completely inaudible on 5V, which is roughly 500-600 RPM or so. The noise profile is actually quite tolerable up to about a 1000RPM. They start to produce audible vibrations over that, but in my experience so does pretty much every other fan I ever had. I suppose if you want to I could try to connect them to a motherboard header and see how low they can actually go and whether they can stop completely when I get off work tonight.

Oh and at 5V it keeps my 4790k between 50 and 60C while gaming, 30-35 under light load (watching movies, browsing). D14 for a heatsink, 20-22C ambient temps.

Thank you, Loladinas, that`s valuable input. If you could check the minimum starting speed on the mobo headers it would be great. I`ve read great things about the NB multiframes and at this point, that`s the favorite contender. If the fans start at 300 rpm, we have a winner. The D14 is exactly on par with the Genesis, as i saw in reviews.
Edited by 0cChase - 10/29/15 at 9:34am
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So I have two of those fans on a splitter. Fans start spinning at roughly 500RPM, after they spin up you can go as low as 300RPM, but a faint clicking noise appears below 400RPM. Up to about 900RPM the noise they produce isn't bothersome, just some air moving around. They top out at 1500RPM, which makes them vibrate, making them essentially useless at that speed.
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Loladinas, thank you very much.
I hate that clicking noise. I`ve sent an email to noiseblocker ask for their advice. Perhaps a 800 rpm pwm fan would be my best bet. It should start at 300 rpm without the clicking noise.
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I think i`ve made up my mind. I`ll most likely go with the NB M12-1. Those start at 300 rpm and the reviews rate them as high as possible. I won`t have pwm, so i hope that my mobo can do what i plan to do.
I don`t want to manually tune them with the fan controller.
Also, i think i will need an adapter+y splitter to control the two fans on the Mk 26 with the gpu fan header.
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If you don't mind, I'm interested in what kind of results you'll have with the mk26. I was looking at it a while back, as i have the genesis black edition paired with 2x Phanteks PH-F140HP fans (seems to work really well), so I'm curious about how well their gpu cooler works.

What thermal paste are you using/would be using? Sorry if i missed it if that was stated earlier.
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I don't know man, what's the point of a 750RPM fan? Seems a bit anemic? At 500RPS they're still inaudible.
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Sure, i'll do a build log and a mini review with the 980 Ti/mk 26 and the whole system. I bought a 8g syringe of Arctic mx-2 before I left my country because that was the only decent one in stock, so i'll be using this one. For the Genesis I used the one that came with the heatsink, Prolimatech Pk-3, if i'm not mistaking. Anyway, the tmperature difference between a relatively bad one and the best one is around 2 degrees Celsius. It matters more how you apply it than what brand it is, as long as it isn't Danone or Colgate smile.gif.
About the fans - I chose the 750 rpm ones for two reasons: 1 - these will start at 4v, so i guess that means 750/3. 250 rpm! biggrin.gif
2- I never use any fan on higher than 700 rpm. In fact, my currently owned NB PK2 refuse to run under 740 rpm, speed at which they are too loud. Mostly wind noise, but I don'the like it.
It doesn'the matter that 750 rpm sounds anemic. That'said the whole point ofor low restriction heatsinks, with fins pretty far appart. You just need a small breeze to pass through them.
I actually tested it with the Genesis.
It can keep the 4690k at under 60 degrees totally passive, with absolutelyour no fans spinning in the case, just by natural air convection. With the smallest breeze, i'll have under 50c and that's great.
The same with the gpu. If non référence 980 ti's can stay passive at idle, I can't see why a way bigger size heatsink won't do the same
Edited by 0cChase - 10/30/15 at 7:30am
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post #18 of 21
I come to see the answers.

I stay to see the video card VRM mod smile.gif

I had done similar with a GTX 670, but it was an AthlonXP cooler instead smile.gif
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About that, i tried several possibilities. On the 290x at least, i would not recommend the totally passive vrm cooling. I burned two of them this way. When the first one died, i thought it was because i bought it used and it was probably used for mining, it was reballed, who knows. When the next one died the same way, i knew it was my fault. Even tho GPU-Z reporter 56c on the VRM1 with the passive mod, it seems that the square bigger blocks near the vrms need some air circulation, doesn`t matter how anemic. The vrm`s make a good contact with the hg10 plate and that plate draws all the heat from them, if it has a bigger heatsink attached to dissipate it further. The first time i modded it with the intel stock cooler, i attached the round cooper core to the heatplate with double sided thermal paste, very near to the vrms. It functioned totally passive, but i didn`t load it much. After that, i mounted a 92 mm Enermax fan ontop of that heatsink and everything went perfect. No noise, (i had the H60 newer revision with better pump) and everything was very cool. After that, i went full retard, it seems. I reatached the heatsink 5-10 mm tot the left and i covered some holes on the hg 10. That lead to the videocard`s death.
Then again, the 290x is a very hot video card. It was a mistake i`ve learn from. Alot.
Since i was bored and my father is an engineer that runs a metalworks company in Romania, i asked him to do some stuff for me. I wanted to double AIO cool the video card. One h110 on the gpu and one h60 on the vrm1, so i made an aluminium bloc with a smaller base and a larger top, so the base would cover the gpu die and with 4 holes that matched the mounting holes around the gpu, and on top, other 4 holes to match the mounting holes of the intel bracket. The other piece had a very narrow base, with two holes, to match those of the vrms, and a top that was exactly like the one for the gpu.
Unfortunately, my design had a flaw. I turned on the pc with the 110 attached only to the gpu piece and the vrm`s only with the aluminum piece bolted on, and the gpu had 80c immediately, without load.
It seems that the implicit double thermal barrier formed by the two layers of thermal paste turns to awful cooling capacity. That`s why i didn`t want to to "the mod" using a copper shim with my reference 980 ti cooler. The only way to efficiently cool a small die is to attach the cooling plate as close as possible, with the least possible amount of thermal paste. I didn`t take any pictures of that setup, but i will in december, when i`ll go back to Romania (i moved to the south of France 3 months ago).

On the 980 Ti i`ll try to mount the mk 26 and if i can get my hands on one, a thermalright vrm cooler.











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Very cool.

Shame you do not have a picture of your dual block idea.

My setup has stick on heatsinks. Those sucked[ok it has to be better than nothing] due to lack of material(they saturate very fast). I have no image of that, but just picture an pile of Scythe BGA heatsinks stuck to the stock cooling plate on a card. one of yours looks like an old VRM or HSI heatsink from the same kit.

Moved on to half a Celeron 800 cooler fit close to the stock fan for airflow.


Next was the Athlon cooler. It only needed some very slight cuts to fit the card and is screwed in with the stock fan screws(MX thermal past between the 2 parts.).

After touching the heatsink and saying "damn that is still HOT" I added a low speed Gelid fan(I had 2 and since they die when used horizontally I had not other use for it.).
I do not have anything that is not the video card in the system.

The fan is controlled off the video cards PWM signal with an adapter.
FT03 system with some slight mods.

I do not think my system would be quiet enough(or even close to fast enough) for you(fans the AP15s normally sit at about 1200 under load.).
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