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personally, since you researched it, i am hoping you have an example with citation(s) of nvidia screwing over one of their partners but if you want to back away . . smile.gif
okay qualacom / samsung to mention a few http://www.extremetech.com/computing/216109-nvidia-infringement-claims-against-samsung-qualcomm-tossed they were partnered in the past and Nvidia tried to screw them with a patent infringement case that was a joke Nvidia was full of it and was only trying to stifle competition.

Nvidia tried to power roll over samsung / qualacom well this could easily blow back on Nvidia bad given some of theyre patents were completely thrown out and 1 was ruled invalid all about Nvidia graphics patents basically Nvidia tried to claim they own the patents on the modern GPU itself and well this could also have blowback from AMD towards Nvidia because well we all know the sheer amount of IP's AMD have that this makes Nvidia violate.

PLZ also keep in mind HBM was designed / developed by AMD and samsung so think about how this can impact Nvidia for future.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 10/29/15 at 1:22pm
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yes very true but they had the program engineers for alot of major software in theyre back pocket drinking theyre koolaid Nvidia put alot of money into these software DEV's pockets as they also did with alot of OEM's with a form of kickbacks and such and it was borderline illegal the way they done so so again Nvidia not playing well with others.

ADOBE (you know adobe premier / photoshop and such) is one of these companies that Nvidia only had to tell them to jump and they would ask how high it is because Nvidia pretty much owns them many other software companies are like this and it has to do with money Nvidia threw theyre way and kickbacks and such.

PLZ I would like to get back on topic but I wanted to set a few things straight before I backed away.

Remember that article from 6 years ago that I posted earlier in the thread? There was major relevance as it explained the state of affairs of OpenCL for many years. The original article was more in depth:

http://web.archive.org/web/20091217040156/http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/14/adobes-mercury-playback-engine-for-cs5-is-cuda-only!.aspx

Adobe's Mercury Playback Engine was CUDA only for a long time, not because NVIDIA paid them, but because AMD didn't have proper OpenCL drivers.

You shouldn't mix Intel's past practices with NVIDIA, unless you have proof that they did in fact pay Adobe not to use AMD. Which would be hard to believe since the latest CC software now supports OpenCL.
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okay qualacom / samsung to mention a few http://www.extremetech.com/computing/216109-nvidia-infringement-claims-against-samsung-qualcomm-tossed they were partnered in the past and Nvidia tried to screw them with a patent infringement case that was a joke Nvidia was full of it.

Nvidia tried to power roll over samsung / qualacom well this could easily blow back on Nvidia bad given some of theyre patenets were completely thrown out and 1 was ruled invalid all about Nvidia graphics patents.

yeah . .really?

so since samsung is suing nvidia with a counter claim then they are screwing over their partner . . intel supporting freesync instead of g-sync after having an agreement w/nvidia would also be screwing over their partner. . . according to your logic or just seems like status quo.

no story how nvidia signed a mutual agreement then pull some shenanigans to make them look bad so they could buy them out for pennies on the dollar?

E: previous partnerships do not exclude a company from suing another. they sue each other all the time. wink.gif
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yes very true but they had the program engineers for alot of major software in theyre back pocket drinking theyre koolaid Nvidia put alot of money into these software DEV's pockets as they also did with alot of OEM's with a form of kickbacks and such and it was borderline illegal the way they done so so again Nvidia not playing well with others.

ADOBE (you know adobe premier / photoshop and such) is one of these companies that Nvidia only had to tell them to jump and they would ask how high it is because Nvidia pretty much owns them many other software companies are like this and it has to do with money Nvidia threw theyre way and kickbacks and such.

PLZ I would like to get back on topic but I wanted to set a few things straight before I backed away.

Remember that article from 6 years ago that I posted earlier in the thread? There was major relevance as it explained the state of affairs of OpenCL for many years. The original article was more in depth, I'll update this post if I can find it.

Adobe's Mercury Playback Engine was CUDA only for a long time, not because NVIDIA paid them, but because AMD didn't have proper OpenCL drivers.

You shouldn't mix Intel's past practices with NVIDIA, unless you have proof that they did in fact pay Adobe not to use AMD. Which would be hard to believe since the latest CC software now supports OpenCL.
latest adobe CC supporting openCL with only a few AMD cards the R9 280x isn't supported nor is the HD 7970 and those are some older hardware that is very powerfull at openCL I know this because a friend just went thru this with ADOBE and is having to buy a Nvidia card just to use it.

This is Nvidias support list::::

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
NVIDIA Quadro K1100M
NVIDIA Quadro K2000
NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
NVIDIA Quadro K2200
NVIDIA Quadro K2000M
NVIDIA Quadro K3000M
NVIDIA Quadro K4000
NVIDIA Quadro K4000M
NVIDIA Quadro K4100M
NVIDIA Quadro K4200
NVIDIA Quadro K5000
NVIDIA Quadro K5000M
NVIDIA Quadro K5200
NVIDIA Quadro K6000
NVIDIA Tesla K10​

I cannot find the AMD support list but my friend has a R9 280x and they told him it wasn't supported
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See, you just proved my point.

A few years ago, that support list was pure NVIDIA, AMD wasn't even an option.

If he's using Creative Cloud, a lot of AMD cards are supported in Premiere & Photoshop. But if he's using CS6, then that's why it's not supported. OpenCL support didn't show up until CC in 2014.

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

It's not NVIDIA's fault that AMD took so long to get OpenCL working and supported properly.
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okay qualacom / samsung to mention a few http://www.extremetech.com/computing/216109-nvidia-infringement-claims-against-samsung-qualcomm-tossed they were partnered in the past and Nvidia tried to screw them with a patent infringement case that was a joke Nvidia was full of it.

Nvidia tried to power roll over samsung / qualacom well this could easily blow back on Nvidia bad given some of theyre patenets were completely thrown out and 1 was ruled invalid all about Nvidia graphics patents.

yeah . .really?

so since samsung is suing nvidia with a counter claim then they are screwing over their partner . . intel supporting freesync instead of g-sync after having an agreement w/nvidia would also be screwing over their partner. . . according to your logic or just seems like status quo.

no story how nvidia signed a mutual agreement then pull some shenanigans to make them look bad so they could buy them out for pennies on the dollar?

E: previous partnerships do not exclude a company from suing another. they sue each other all the time. wink.gif
Nvidia claims to hold the patents on the modern day GPU this is a problem this is where the qualicom / samsung issue was going this meens technically AMD don't have patents at all that are valid involving modern GPU do you agree with this.
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Nvidia claims to hold the patents on the modern day GPU this is a problem this is where the qualicom / samsung issue was going this meens technically AMD don't have patents at all that are valid involving modern GPU do you agree with this.

saying nvidia claimed to hold the patent of modern day GPUs is an inaccurate generalization brought about by the media* (and then spread about in forums like this one) not knowing what nvidia was claiming. or simply put - they didn't know how to read filed claims. but regardless, it was a horrible claim and i certainly sure nvidia fired those lawyers; their legal expertise wasn't any better than your average ambulance chaser. i'm sure i can go back in my posting history and find the thread discussion this same article that had a link to the filing and show what a joke the filing was.

its a great example of when you hire a lawyer to represent you, they do REPRESENT YOU! and you look bad if they are bad.

*clickbait anybody?

no offense but i was really hoping for some soap operaesque back stabbing. mad.gif

E:
and really since it was thrown out like it ought to have, it does make this discussion rather moot, no?
Edited by looniam - 10/29/15 at 2:01pm
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Nvidia claims to hold the patents on the modern day GPU this is a problem this is where the qualicom / samsung issue was going this meens technically AMD don't have patents at all that are valid involving modern GPU do you agree with this.

saying nvidia claimed to hold the patent of modern day GPUs is an inaccurate generalization brought about by the media* (and then spread about in forums like this one) not knowing what nvidia was claiming. or simply put - they didn't know how to read filed claims. but regardless, it was a horrible claim and i certainly sure nvidia fired those lawyers; their legal expertise wasn't any better than your average ambulance chaser. i'm sure i can go back in my posting history and find the thread discussion this same article that had a link to the filing and show what a joke the filing was.

its a great example of when you hire a lawyer to represent you, they do REPRESENT YOU! and you look bad if they are bad.

*clickbait anybody?

no offense but i was really hoping for some soap operaesque back stabbing. mad.gif

E:
and really since it was thrown out like it ought to have, it does make this discussion rather moot, no?

E:
so i went looking for that filing . didn't find a valid link to it but i did run accross:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8492/nvidia-files-patent-infringement-complaints-against-qualcomm-samsung
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The use of patent infringement suits in the technology space is nothing new, and even in the GPU space they’re somewhat common. NVIDIA in particular is still the 800lb gorilla of the GPU world by patent portfolio size (and arguably by GPU R&D), so how they interact with other companies tends to depend on the size of those companies and what patents they have in turn. In the PC space NVIDIA and AMD have relatively strong cross-licensing agreements – AMD being the next largest GPU developer – followed by Intel who settled a suit out of court with NVIDIA 3 years ago over continued access to NVIDIA’s patents.

so AMD wouldn't be affected no matter the outcome since AMD and intel already have agreements . . wink.gif

oopps hit reply instead of edit . .my bad.
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its a great example of when you hire a lawyer to represent you, they do REPRESENT YOU! and you look bad if they are bad.

*clickbait anybody?

no offense but i was really hoping for some soap operaesque back stabbing. mad.gif

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and really since it was thrown out like it ought to have, it does make this discussion rather moot, no?

Took the words right out my mouth, that lawsuit was a joke, and since it didn't go anywhere, no backstabbing or animals were harmed in the filing of that lawsuit.

Intel had to pay to get continued access to NVIDIA patents, but they also drove NVIDIA out of the x86 space in the process.
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yes very true but they had the program engineers for alot of major software in theyre back pocket drinking theyre koolaid Nvidia put alot of money into these software DEV's pockets as they also did with alot of OEM's with a form of kickbacks and such and it was borderline illegal the way they done so so again Nvidia not playing well with others.

ADOBE (you know adobe premier / photoshop and such) is one of these companies that Nvidia only had to tell them to jump and they would ask how high it is because Nvidia pretty much owns them many other software companies are like this and it has to do with money Nvidia threw theyre way and kickbacks and such.

PLZ I would like to get back on topic but I wanted to set a few things straight before I backed away.

How is a graphics card manufacturer helping software developers make things run better a bad thing for the consumer? Microsoft did this, forcing everyone into the DX standard, and that's why the state of gaming is what it is, for better or for worse. If it weren't for Microsoft putting money into software developers, gaming would not have advanced as fast as it did. Likewise, same with nVidia and GPGPU programs. If AMD had seriously wanted to be an alternative in GPGPU, they had two options: Get on board with CUDA, or get OpenCL to CUDA levels within a year or less. OpenCL now is probably what CUDA was 6 years ago, and they chose not go get on board with CUDA, thus destroying any chance of becoming a serious contender in GPGPU, which means A LOT of lost revenue. Revenue that could have been used to greatly accelerate OpenCL development in case nVidia decides to be the bad guy (which wouldn't have happened due to legal repercussions).
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