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Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post

You are really wrong. They do not support DX12 at hardware level... And nVidia have dropped support for my GTX 260M around a year ago. So... yeah. Don't say that they even support the 9000 series, when my newer card is not supported (no new drivers). My 6950 on the other hand is still supported and is how old ?


since when was the 260m considered newer than a "gtx 400". I clearly made a distinction of what gpu is currently being supported
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They definitely didn't optimise on purpose to show the 'power' of Maxwell.

The one thing I will give nVidia credit for is they continue to support even ancient and outdated chips like the 9 series. AMD dropped support for the 4 series long ago.
Sorry Dudewitbow, that was meant kfor this guy, who posted that the 9xxx series are still supported.
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its dependent on which functionality of the gpu in question. While AMD dropped VLIW, their support for GCN in general have been relatively equivalent. For Nvidia, they are trying to get some functions of DX12 to work on fermi, but regardless they focus heavier on whatever is the newest product rather than in general.

From what I've seen Kepler doesn't look very good in DX12 so what could you say about Fermi? DX12 for these cards will probably be useless.
AMD made a hard decision but I bet that their first generation GCNs will have better DX12 support than Fermi or Kepler.
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Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post

You are really wrong. They do not support DX12 at hardware level... And nVidia have dropped support for my GTX 260M around a year ago. So... yeah. Don't say that they even support the 9000 series, when my newer card is not supported (no new drivers). My 6950 on the other hand is still supported and is how old ?

It is as old as the the 5xx series, which is also supported. As well as the 4xx series. Just like the 5xxx series from AMD.

Though, there are windows 10 specific drivers for the 260M from a bit easier this year and even the 100M series. And even for the 8xxx series. To get radeon HD 4xxx (desktop or mobile) series drivers for windows 10, you have to settle for the basic windows 10 support drivers (not AMD catalyst).

So support is broad. HD 6xxx support is also pretty limited. There are no optimisations to that series regarding driver and game profiles anymore the same as nvidia not adding to old drivers.
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From what I've seen Kepler doesn't look very good in DX12 so what could you say about Fermi? DX12 for these cards will probably be useless.
AMD made a hard decision but I bet that their first generation GCNs will have better DX12 support than Fermi or Kepler.

It's probably the other way around, at least on Fermi's and Kepler's big chips. From what I see, the framerate boost where it is not CPU bottleneck related occurs primarily from utilizing compute resources that go otherwise unused, and big Maxwell has significantly less compute resources per core as compared to big Fermi and Kepler.

Unless I skipped over it, I don't see big Fermi or Kepler in these tests (granted, I just skimmed).
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But why?!? There is absolutely no business or technical reason they would want to disable or cripple this any more than AMD or Intel would. I don't understand why anyone would think they would want to?

Because they have gone out of their way to specifically disable PhysX in scenarios where an AMD card is present in the system in the past? A while ago there was a small driver hack allowing one to run auxiliary nVidia card for PhysX while the main graphical driver was an AMD card and nVidia specifically targeted that option and disabled it. So it's not some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory to think they would consider it given their track record.
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seriously, you are comparing apples and oranges. physx is nvidia's proprietary software, whereas DX12 is not.
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Because NVIDIA is not a business who's end goal is to make more money but rather a charity organization for gamers

And people think that AMD is? rolleyes.gif
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And people think that AMD is? rolleyes.gif

Yes but a business's ethics may be entirely different from it's competitors.
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