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This list is a bit of a joke. The fact that the ~$250 290X isn't on it gives enough warrant to ignore it.
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But we all know the truth, currently 980TI is the only card worth purchasing on the NVIDIA side.
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This list is a bit of a joke. The fact that the ~$250 290X isn't on it gives enough warrant to ignore it.

What $250 290X? I see them ranging from $299 for an open box to $379
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still $310 for a 290X makes the statement "390X is the best 400-500 usd card" quite ridiculous.
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still $310 for a 290X makes the statement "390X is the best 400-500 usd card" quite ridiculous.

Well it does have 8GB rolleyes.gif
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The power usage difference is not a big deal as anyone buying one of these cards likely has a 500 to 600 watt PSU which works just fine with the 390

The actual power usage, like cost of power (for a normal gaming system) and fitting on the PSU is a much smaller concern than adding the 100 watts of heat IMO. Requires better GPU cooler, louder fans and much stronger case airflow if you wanna use the hardware well
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The power usage difference is not a big deal as anyone buying one of these cards likely has a 500 to 600 watt PSU which works just fine with the 390

The actual power usage, like cost of power (for a normal gaming system) and fitting on the PSU is a much smaller concern than adding the 100 watts of heat IMO. Requires better GPU cooler, louder fans and much stronger case airflow if you wanna use the hardware well

Eh, if it has a good stock solution then all that (apart from heating up the room) shouldn't be an issue.

I have a 295X2 with stock cooling (apart from different fans on the radiator) and I have no intakes in my case, only 3x120mm exhaust top for my CPU rad and the 2x120 exhaust rear for my 295x2 rad.

But oh boy, does my room heat up redface.gif
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Eh, if it has a good stock solution then all that (apart from heating up the room) shouldn't be an issue.

I have a 295X2 with stock cooling (apart from different fans on the radiator) and I have no intakes in my case, only 3x120mm exhaust top for my CPU rad and the 2x120 exhaust rear for my 295x2 rad.

But oh boy, does my room heat up redface.gif

Just in time for Winter. wink.gif
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I'm having a really, REALLY hard time deciding between the GTX 960 R9, 280, R9 285, and R9 380.

Now they say the 380 has the best price to performance in the price range... but what if the price range were for those same cards used? How much lower is the 960 used on OCN, hardwareswap, Craigslist. vs 380? 280? 285?
Now what if power consumption and heat output was a big factor? The case it's going in has 2 120mm fan slots and 1 200mm. That's it. Electric bill is a thing too.
It's 1080p as well, with whatever settings will get it close to 60fps+ on a 72Hz screen. 4GB VRAM is not worth it over 2GB in this particular case so forget that. The 280 lacks modern features that will be used in it's lifetime, but I suspect it can be had MUCH cheaper than a 285 or 380 due to it's age.
This system will be running a highly overclocked Pentium G3258 OC'd as far as I can get it on an H80i and SOC Force MB. 4.6GHz is a safe bet. THis is a huge factor as AMD driver have much higher overhead vs Nvidia.
Lastly comes overclock potential. Whatever these cards are at will be offset in the end by their max OC. AMD cards tend not to overclock so well, usually not getting past +15% while Nvidia cards - especially Maxwell overclock beyond +15% much more easily.

What on Earth do I do? I'm leaning heavily towards a Gigabyte 960 G1 for <$150. It seems like the best choice it with the OC ability, featureset, heat/power consumption, and price. But is it really the best choice? confused.gif
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I'm having a really, REALLY hard time deciding between the GTX 960 R9, 280, R9 285, and R9 380.

Now they say the 380 has the best price to performance in the price range... but what if the price range were for those same cards used? How much lower is the 960 used on OCN, hardwareswap, Craigslist. vs 380? 280? 285?
Now what if power consumption and heat output was a big factor? The case it's going in has 2 120mm fan slots and 1 200mm. That's it. Electric bill is a thing too.
It's 1080p as well, with whatever settings will get it close to 60fps+ on a 72Hz screen. 4GB VRAM is not worth it over 2GB in this particular case so forget that. The 280 lacks modern features that will be used in it's lifetime, but I suspect it can be had MUCH cheaper than a 285 or 380 due to it's age.
This system will be running a highly overclocked Pentium G3258 OC'd as far as I can get it on an H80i and SOC Force MB. 4.6GHz is a safe bet. THis is a huge factor as AMD driver have much higher overhead vs Nvidia.
Lastly comes overclock potential. Whatever these cards are at will be offset in the end by their max OC. AMD cards tend not to overclock so well, usually not getting past +15% while Nvidia cards - especially Maxwell overclock beyond +15% much more easily.

What on Earth do I do? I'm leaning heavily towards a Gigabyte 960 G1 for <$150. It seems like the best choice it with the OC ability, featureset, heat/power consumption, and price. But is it really the best choice? confused.gif
If you want to OC - core clock doesn't translate linearly into pure perfromance. 15% OC can mean 5% perf. increase, while AMD 10% OC gives the same 5% perf.increase. If i were you, i would go for used 280x. Used hardware always has the best price/performance. Especially on AMD side.
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I'm having a really, REALLY hard time deciding between the GTX 960 R9, 280, R9 285, and R9 380.

Now they say the 380 has the best price to performance in the price range... but what if the price range were for those same cards used? How much lower is the 960 used on OCN, hardwareswap, Craigslist. vs 380? 280? 285?
Now what if power consumption and heat output was a big factor? The case it's going in has 2 120mm fan slots and 1 200mm. That's it. Electric bill is a thing too.
It's 1080p as well, with whatever settings will get it close to 60fps+ on a 72Hz screen. 4GB VRAM is not worth it over 2GB in this particular case so forget that. The 280 lacks modern features that will be used in it's lifetime, but I suspect it can be had MUCH cheaper than a 285 or 380 due to it's age.
This system will be running a highly overclocked Pentium G3258 OC'd as far as I can get it on an H80i and SOC Force MB. 4.6GHz is a safe bet. THis is a huge factor as AMD driver have much higher overhead vs Nvidia.
Lastly comes overclock potential. Whatever these cards are at will be offset in the end by their max OC. AMD cards tend not to overclock so well, usually not getting past +15% while Nvidia cards - especially Maxwell overclock beyond +15% much more easily.

What on Earth do I do? I'm leaning heavily towards a Gigabyte 960 G1 for <$150. It seems like the best choice it with the OC ability, featureset, heat/power consumption, and price. But is it really the best choice? confused.gif
If you want to OC - core clock doesn't translate linearly into pure perfromance. 15% OC can mean 5% perf. increase, while AMD 10% OC gives the same 5% perf.increase. If i were you, i would go for used 280x. Used hardware always has the best price/performance. Especially on AMD side.

After checking prices, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Thank you! +rep! biggrin.gif I would have missed that since I assumed 280X was way out of budget, but it's right there at $150-160, a bit high since I was aiming at $130-140 but with some searching I'm sure I can find a good deal. It's like another 15% performance over the 270X in there now. Do you think it will have any issue with the dual core? BF4 will be played on it. I know the CPU will be a bit of a bottleneck here, but how much now?
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