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Why harping?

Because you can still buy a 290X brand new right now, as of the writing of the article. They aren't hard to get your hands on either, Newegg has in stock something around 10 different 290X. Amazon has a few pages themselves.

If they were something that still wasn't readily available, sure, it could stay off. That isn't the case though, you can pretty much go to any e-tailer right now and get a brand spanking new 290X.

I'm sure 780's can also be found new but should they also be included?
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It's not the same volume. 780/Ti are marginal while there are a lot of reference for the 290/290X on sale right now at a very competitive price.
That's quite a problem for AMD, old cards are still in the channel and discounted to empty the inventory (little money made on it)
And when you know that 3XX series is rebrand, it's easy to understand why people got eyes on the old ones.
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It's not the same volume. 780/Ti are marginal while there are a lot of reference for the 290/290X on sale right now at a very competitive price.
That's quite a problem for AMD, old cards are still in the channel and discounted to empty the inventory (little money made on it)
And when you know that 3XX series is rebrand, it's easy to understand why people got eyes on the old ones.

R9 280X coming. It's 100% true. AMD is shooting themselves in the foot left and right here...
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I'm sure 780's can also be found new but should they also be included?

Actually, no. Newegg, Amazon.com, NCIX, Tiger.com, none of them sell them as new items. You can find a few private people selling "new" 780's on Amazon's seller market. However, an actual new to retail GTX 780 is not available on any of the major U.S. e-tailers.

Unlike the 290X, which Newegg has something around 10 different flavors of as of writing.
    
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I got my R9 380 2GB for $127 new, best deal ever.
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This list is a bit of a joke. The fact that the ~$250 290X isn't on it gives enough warrant to ignore it.

Not really, the list really only deals with MSRP (so used and sale prices don't matter) and more importantly, CURRENT cards (so 2 year old cards like the R9 290X don't matter since they have been rebranded and replaced with 300-series).
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Not really, the list really only deals with MSRP (so used and sale prices don't matter) and more importantly, CURRENT cards (so 2 year old cards like the R9 290X don't matter since they have been rebranded and replaced with 300-series).

Agree. The 290/290x were replaced by the 390/390x and should be the cards represented in these charts. The 290/290x are irreverent to this comparison since they are only left on the shelves because they were not selling worth a crap.
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Why have AMDs mid range GPUs much better efficiency than low end or high end?...
expect Fury and R9 Nano... but why is R9 270X very efficient or R7 370 (7850) and why R9 280X which is same GCN, but much more inefficient....

because GTX 950 is a heavily overclocked 750ti, basically.

edit: As for the list, it's a nice reference if you want a new and sparkly GPU with no hassle of finding deals or open box offers. There's people who buy that way.

Still, there sure is nice second hand/open box deals across the spectrum as well, even with warranty if you care to look around for a while, and I appreciate em very much! Either camp has great offers in that regard.
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Actually, no. Newegg, Amazon.com, NCIX, Tiger.com, none of them sell them as new items. You can find a few private people selling "new" 780's on Amazon's seller market. However, an actual new to retail GTX 780 is not available on any of the major U.S. e-tailers.

Unlike the 290X, which Newegg has something around 10 different flavors of as of writing.

780's And 780Ti's can be had for more than 970's and 290X's here.
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Not really, the list really only deals with MSRP (so used and sale prices don't matter) and more importantly, CURRENT cards (so 2 year old cards like the R9 290X don't matter since they have been rebranded and replaced with 300-series).

Sorry, this doesn't work for me.

The article is titled "Best Graphics Cards: Nvidia vs. AMD at Every Price Point". It isn't titled "Best Latest Graphics Cards: Nvidia vs. AMD at Every Price Point". It is an article that was written, from the current perspective, comparing the readily available graphics cards from the two competitors. The 290X is certainly very easy to buy brand new from pretty much any retailer still, regardless of its original release date.

If someone went to Google, and was looking for information on what GPU to buy, right now. Today! If that person came across that chart, they would be screwed. Anyone buying a GPU in the $200+ price range, right now, should absolutely be looking at a 290X first. This article of "Best Graphics Cards: Nvidia vs. AMD at Every Price Point" really is very incomplete. As it isn't specifying the most current generations.

Again, reminder point, this isn't about what generation is what. It is about a person buying something, and what the general retail availability of a product is. The 290X is extremely available still!

It might sound like it is splitting hairs, but it is a pretty important distinction to be made. We, as enthusiasts, understand these things at a level the average consumer doesn't. So when Random Joe goes online for help, and comes across a list like this, it really does a disservice to that person if it isn't clear. Especially when they are going to see a lot of new 290X cards listed with Newegg, Amazon, Tiger, etc, in their search anyways.

EDIT:

If the above wasn't clear, the driving factor behind being so specific in this is that it has to do with another persons money. It is a recommendation list on how a person should spend their money. I can fully appreciate how expensive hardware is to a lot of people, so when a recommendation is made. That recommendation really needs to be spot on. Assuming the product is something that is readily available.
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780's And 780Ti's can be had for more than 970's and 290X's here.

Dang, where do you live? They haven't been available (here) as a new retail item for a long while now.
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