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Originally Posted by Slink3Slyde View Post

It sounds like Thermalright need to get on board with some UK suppliers, OCUK dont have any of their air coolers either from a quick look as well as Scan, Novatech, Dabs..

Jimms here has just about every one, if not in stock most are available to order.

http://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/List/000-104/jaahdytys-ja-erikoistuotteet--jaahdytyssiilit?ob=6&fq=thermalright

Perhaps they don't make enough money in the UK and are scaling back? I dont recall them having a huge presence on the major UK sites for CPU coolers anyway at least in the last 4 years. Would be a shame.
Caseking bought OcUK in 2012, and it wasn't long after that their Thermalright stock started going away. I think Thermalright was working on the assumption having a better product was what makes the difference .. but sadly in this day and age is more about media & advertising. Good example is how CLCs took the industry by storm even though they are more expensive, don't cool as well, have way more failures, are much noisier .. Now people are realizing it was all media hype and many are dumping their CLCs in favor of air coolers again.
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Caseking bought OcUK in 2012, and it wasn't long after that their Thermalright stock started going away. I think Thermalright was working on the assumption having a better product was what makes the difference .. but sadly in this day and age is more about media & advertising. Good example is how CLCs took the industry by storm even though they are more expensive, don't cool as well, have way more failures, are much noisier .. Now people are realizing it was all media hype and many are dumping their CLCs in favor of air coolers again.

You know I agree with you on CLC's wink.gif Some people do just prefer the looks however, which I think is fair enough.

What's Casekings problem with Thermalright? You can get TR gear in Europe easily, and Newegg has their kit as well in the U.S so it must be selling somewhere along the line.
post #73 of 88
CLC has its place.

most of the time CLC is the BEST / only solution when it comes to SFF case/builds. for example. Silverstone SG13 was designed entirely with CLC cooling in mind biggrin.gif

the "problem" with CLC was the hype and advertising. it's used in places where it shouldn't have because someone bought into the hype and believed it's actually "better". is it efficient? when used properly it's "more" efficient then air cooler because you are dumping all the heat right out of the case. 0% re-circulation of heat is what it's designed to provide. but very few builds are actually done "correctly" these days smile.gif it was never meant to be a "quiet" solution. it was designed as one of the "only solution" in certain builds.

unfortunately, the advertising came back and bit it on it's arse biggrin.gif now people are realizing air does a better job most of the time.
post #74 of 88
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You know I agree with you on CLC's wink.gifSome people do just prefer the looks however, which I think is fair enough.

What's Casekings problem with Thermalright? You can get TR gear in Europe easily, and Newegg has their kit as well in the U.S so it must be selling somewhere along the line.

And that is fair enough - and I happen to agree with you on that. It's the users that argue with you that 72 degrees at 58 dB is better than 68 degrees at 33 dB that make CLC users look bad.

Looks are totally subjective. I don't love the looks of most large air coolers, but I do find most of them preferable to the "one size fits none" CLC look.

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CLC has its place.

most of the time CLC is the BEST / only solution when it comes to SFF case/builds. for example. Silverstone SG13 was designed entirely with CLC cooling in mind biggrin.gif

the "problem" with CLC was the hype and advertising. it's used in places where it shouldn't have because someone bought into the hype and believed it's actually "better". is it efficient? when used properly it's "more" efficient then air cooler because you are dumping all the heat right out of the case. 0% re-circulation of heat is what it's designed to provide. but very few builds are actually done "correctly" these days smile.gif it was never meant to be a "quiet" solution. it was designed as one of the "only solution" in certain builds.

unfortunately, the advertising came back and bit it on it's arse biggrin.gif now people are realizing air does a better job most of the time.

LOL - no, no....they are completely silent....just ask any Corsair user. thumbsupsmiley.png
Edited by ciarlatano - 10/30/15 at 10:36am
post #75 of 88
NH-D14 is legend, really. Can't go wrong with one of those. It's relatively compact and quiet, with good brackets. Ugly as sin, but hey, who cares, right?
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Sorry, I have a nice looking motherboard that I wouldn't want half-covered by some monstrosity of an air cooler, just to get virtually the same performance as my H100i.
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NH-D14 is legend, really. Can't go wrong with one of those. It's relatively compact and quiet, with good brackets. Ugly as sin, but hey, who cares, right?

The NH-D14 is completely silent, its the fans that make noise - if we're trying to be accurate here. "Compact" is definitely not a good description for the NH-D14. That's the equivalent of referring to a Hummer as a compact vehicle....



See? This is hardly what I would call "compact". The Hyper 212 EVO could be a compact cooler, the NH-D14 is a hulking monstrosity. biggrin.gif
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The Hyper 212 EVO could be a compact cooler, the NH-D14 is a hulking monstrosity. biggrin.gif

Yet you forget that the Hyper 212 couldn't lower temps on the higher specked CPU's.

The "Hulking Monstrosity" NH-D14 can handle any type of CPU with ease even when overclocked to extreme levels. As much as I despise Noctua they did in fact release a decent Air-Cooler.
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Yet you forget that the Hyper 212 couldn't lower temps on the higher specked CPU's.

The "Hulking Monstrosity" NH-D14 can handle any type of CPU with ease even when overclocked to extreme levels. As much as I despise Noctua they did in fact release a decent Air-Cooler.

I'm not seeing anywhere in my post where I mentioned performance....I was purely talking about size, the physical amount of space that the coolers occupy. Please read carefully in the future. thumb.gif
post #79 of 88
It is not the size that you are complaining about as radiators and their fans are at least as large. The difference is that the radiators are set to the front and top and rear of the case, not the middle. They take up more actual room but are placed where they are not as easy to see.

I don't like all those thick unsightly hoses twisting and turning all around inside the case. They look very messy.
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post #80 of 88
NH-D14 is one of the best for sure. It is more compact than many other similar coolers. Only drawback to be is not PWM fans unless it's Special Edition 2011 mount model

Cryorig have good looking coolers. Even sell shrouds in colors to match different motherboard and case schemes.
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