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No, that's motion interpolation, otherwise known as AMD Fluid Motion I believe. Some commercial video players might use it, but the free implementation for MPC is called BlueSky if you want to try it yourself:
http://bluesky23.yukishigure.com/en/BlueskyFRC.html




FYI AMD introduced this with the last Omega driver, and it's kind of a big deal... and Nvidia doesn't have anything comparable. But no one cares about video playback quality these days, so no-one even noticed sad-smiley-002.gif

Thanks for the info!

It's kind of bizarre; I'm looking at the Bluesky website, and it says that HD 7000s are supported, but there's no option for Fluid Motion in my CCC. I did some googling, and it looks like AMD only supported Fluid Motion on the Rx 200s.

So is Bluesky only partially supported on Southern Islands? Does it require some special tinkering around with the options? confused.gif




It's been months since I tried BlueSky (I mostly use SVP for interpolation now), but I swear it worked on my 7950. It's the exact same silicon as the RX 200 cards, so there's no reason it shouldn't work.

My main rig is in storage, so I can't try it myself atm frown.gif



EDIT: Also, I don't remember enabling any video filters in CCC... I don't like Catalyst messing with my videos. thumb.gif I just used MPC and added BlueSky as an external filter.

http://bluesky23.yukishigure.com/en/bfrc/howto/mpc.html
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It's been months since I tried BlueSky (I mostly use SVP for interpolation now), but I swear it worked on my 7950. It's the exact same silicon as the RX 200 cards, so there's no reason it shouldn't work.

My main rig is in storage, so I can't try it myself atm frown.gif



EDIT: Also, I don't remember enabling any video filters in CCC... I don't like Catalyst messing with my videos. thumb.gif I just used MPC and added BlueSky as an external filter.

http://bluesky23.yukishigure.com/en/bfrc/howto/mpc.html

Hm, now that I actually read the system requirements, looks like BlueSky's only supported in 8 and up, so that pretty much seals the deal right there for me. Thanks for your help anyway. thumb.gif
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Fiji has lower bandwidth than its theoretical numbers would suggest. In terms of Asus DCII 290X which Techreport has tested alongside Fury X, its 512 GB/s HBM interface converts to 438 GB/s in the gddr5 scale(9.1gbps@384 bit, or 6.8 gbps@512 bit). Pretty low return, except for its power efficiency, maybe they will fix that in HBM2.
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It's how CFX works. Nothing you can do about it.

SLI used to have the same limitation, in the same sort of rendering modes...doesn't any more.
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Get MPC-BE from there with MadVR already integrated for a nice, accurate, sharp picture. Literally can't get any easier.

Even easier, get this: Kawaii Codec Pack (KCP). It's MPC-HC + MadVR + LAV Filters + subtitle timer. During installation you can select the quality preset, and its as good as manually installing each of them.

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KCP was created with a focus Hi10P content playback and quality. Primarily, KCP exists as an alternative to following a Hi10P/codec setup guide. KCP serves as a tool which automates the process of installing the latest codecs and applying the settings needed for them to work harmoniously.

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  • The ability to choose a configuration preset for madVR that best matches your PCs potential
  • (Optional) Ability to install ReClock
  • (Optional) Ability to alternatively use ReClock for Bit-Perfect Audio output

The components utilized in a default install of KCP result in higher image quality at a minimal cost in performance (YMMV based on your existing hardware).
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Get MPC-BE from there with MadVR already integrated for a nice, accurate, sharp picture. Literally can't get any easier.

Even easier, get this: Kawaii Codec Pack (KCP). It's MPC-HC + MadVR + LAV Filters + subtitle timer. During installation you can select the quality preset, and its as good as manually installing each of them.

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What is KCP?
KCP is a codec pack that contains the latest DirectShow components, utilized to decode an array of media types.
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  • A simple settings application that allows you to modify the configuration of all installed components
  • The ability to choose a configuration preset for madVR that best matches your PCs potential
  • (Optional) Ability to install ReClock
  • (Optional) Ability to alternatively use ReClock for Bit-Perfect Audio output

The components utilized in a default install of KCP result in higher image quality at a minimal cost in performance (YMMV based on your existing hardware).

I used to recommend KCP, but SVP 4 is a better choice these days IMHO. It installs everything KCP does, but it also installs and configures FFDShow so you can use real time FFDShow filters and AviSynth scripts. You also get SVPs great motion interpolation, and it has an auto-updater maintenance program that will keep every component up-to-date with a single click.

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No, that's motion interpolation, otherwise known as AMD Fluid Motion I believe. Some commercial video players might use it, but the free implementation for MPC is called BlueSky if you want to try it yourself:
http://bluesky23.yukishigure.com/en/BlueskyFRC.html




FYI AMD introduced this with the last Omega driver, and it's kind of a big deal... and Nvidia doesn't have anything comparable. But no one cares about video playback quality these days, so no-one even noticed sad-smiley-002.gif

I care about video playback quality frown.gif

Good, but unfortunately we're the minority frown.gif



Also, for those of you who think this video talk is off topic, AMD's drivers play a very important role in video playback. AMD has already shown interest in higher quality playback with their UVD 6/Arctic Islands plans, so the new Omega driver could introduce something cool as well.
Edited by brucethemoose - 10/29/15 at 2:23am
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I very much dislike interpolation, and KCP has what I want. So I'll stick to that redface.gif

I prefer to watch the content as it was intended, and to not scale it up weirdly.

Interpolation issues: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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QNG0SW1.jpg

There's a lot more examples, but I can't really find them while at work. There is a .webm somewhere of these issues in action with The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya.
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Thanks for the info!

It's kind of bizarre; I'm looking at the Bluesky website, and it says that HD 7000s are supported, but there's no option for Fluid Motion in my CCC. I did some googling, and it looks like AMD only supported Fluid Motion on the Rx 200s.

So is Bluesky only partially supported on Southern Islands? Does it require some special tinkering around with the options? confused.gif

If you have Dynamic resolution turn on it will not show Fluid Motion and you have to use MODE 1 or 2 in Bluesky or it will not show.
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I very much dislike interpolation, and KCP has what I want. So I'll stick to that redface.gif

I prefer to watch the content as it was intended, and to not scale it up weirdly.

Interpolation issues: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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There's a lot more examples, but I can't really find them while at work. There is a .webm somewhere of these issues in action with The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya.
Bad settings in SVP 3.

SVP 4 Free is out from the indiegogo campaign now, it's less smooth and has no settings but it's just the early free version. November 2nd the real version is out for donors and anyone else who wants to buy now. It's a MASSIVE update, new Avisynth, TOTALLY revamped GUI that is bangin' awesome, ALl sorts of new behind the scenes improvements that really help performance and really help eliminate these commonly complained about artifacts. I'm excited. biggrin.gif


As for Codecs I still think Shark007 has KCP beat by a mile. Tell me I'm wrong: Shark007.net
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How about CCCP pack? The newest has a 64bit version.
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