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For anyone and everyone out there who have SSD's and HDD with Windows installed on both.

I have a slight problem. Googled and searched around and haven't found anything along these lines for the
problem I'm running into (maybe I'm searching wrong ?).

I installed WIn 7 a long time ago in times bygone onto a 1 TB HDD. Now, I recently installed Win 7 onto a SSD.

I feel stupid for typing this; but, they are on separate drives as I described. Now I unplugged the HDD when installing the
new Win 7 install on the SSD to make sure the OS install isn't fussed with and it will only install onto the SSD and not conflict with
the old install that was on the HDD.

After installing the OS on the SSD, set everything up the way I want it (so far), I re-plugged the HDD with the old Win 7
back in. But nothing showed up?

The SSD is on Disk 0 and the HDD is on Disk 1 order. In the BIOIS, I set the SSD to have boot priority so it boots first.

It doesn't read the old HDD at all? What are the proper steps that I should have done when re-pluggin the HDD back in?

Is there any way to keep the files I had stored on the HDD?
I just want to delete the Win 7 system and registry and anything related to the old Win 7 install (on the HDD)
but keep the new OS Win 7 files and registry etc. that was installed on the SSD on the SSD?

I read somewhere that when I plug the HDD back in, it should be picked up by the system even if I'm booting into/onto
the SSD. And all that is needed to keep the files and everything on the original HDD be accessible to me on the OS installed on the SSD is to just assign
a drive letter like "K" or some unused drive letter to it? That way, all the old data from the Win 7 installed on the HDD would still be able to be used by me.
Is that correct?
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It doesn't read the old HDD at all? What are the proper steps that I should have done when re-pluggin the HDD back in?

You shouldn't have unplugged it in the first place. That's what's causing the problems

Is there any way to keep the files I had stored on the HDD?

Data, yes, Program,s no.


I just want to delete the Win 7 system and registry and anything related to the old Win 7 install (on the HDD)
but keep the new OS Win 7 files and registry etc. that was installed on the SSD on the SSD?

There are no Win 7 files on your SSD nor is the Win 7 registry on you SSD.

When you install a second OS it rewrites the boot sector of the boot drive. If there's another drive that already has a boot sector on it Windows install will modify that also so that, when you're done with the install, on boot up you'll get a menu to choose which install, new or old, you want to start up.

You now have two droves, an SSD and a spinner. that both have different boot sectors on them that each point to a different OS.

You should still be able to boot into the Win 7 install by either using the start up key press to choose what Drive to boot from (SSD, HDD, DVD, Thunb drive, etc,) .Or entering the BIOS and setting the spinner as the boot device.

To get the option to boot either OS you could try doing the Windows 10 startup repair. Sometimes that works. If not you'll need BCDedit, download it form Microsoft. to rewrite the boot sectors. There's a freeware version that's much easier to use called EasyBCD.

Once you get your Win 7 back you can either dual boot (if there are still Win 7 programs you want to use), or copy off the date (Text files, documents, pictures, music, etc. - not programs) that you want to save and then delete the windows 7 install completely (which isn't easy to do).
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 It doesn't read the old HDD at all? What are the proper steps that I should have done when re-pluggin the HDD back in?

 

Is there any way to keep the files I had stored on the HDD?


I just want to delete the Win 7 system and registry and anything related to the old Win 7 install (on the HDD)
but keep the new OS Win 7 files and registry etc. that was installed on the SSD on the SSD?

 

I read somewhere that when I plug the HDD back in, it should be picked up by the system even if I'm booting into/onto
the SSD. And all that is needed to keep the files and everything on the original HDD be accessible to me on the OS installed on the SSD is to just assign
a drive letter like "K" or some unused drive letter to it? That way, all the old data from the Win 7 installed on the HDD would still be able to be used by me.
Is that correct?

All you should have to do once you are booted into the OS off of the SSD is go into disk management and assign the HDD a drive letter. Once you do that you should be all good. One reason why the drive may not show up in disk management, but does in the BIOS is because you need to either change the SATA port the HDD is connected to or install the third-party SATA controller driver for it to be picked up.

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When I go into disk management and assign the HDD a drive letter, Would I have to quick format the drive or not quick format?
Also wouldn't it erase the data that was originally on the HDD?
Or would I just leave the quick format box unticked or will not quick formatting the drive cause it to have problems and conflict with the OS that is on the SSD?

Is this guide still applicable for a Win 7 install today? http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
Are there additional things that can be done to optimize the Win 7 SSD install further?

Sorry if these questions are stupid but just wanted some clarification.
Edited by hellothere - 10/31/15 at 10:02pm
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Got it. On boot up now, the Win 7 that was installed on the SSD was able to read the 1 TB HDD along with the two partitions that I made for the HDD before I got the SSD.
However, now, I can't get to the data that was on the HDD partition that had the Win 7 OS install on it. All I see are the Windows folders, program folders and nothing else. On the other partition off of the same 1 TB HDD, I can see and access all the files because it was used for storage.

Now, is it advisable or even possible to just back up the data that is on the partition on the 1 TB HDD onto an external drive, then format that specific partition so that its empty and can be used for storage like the second partition I mentioned before?
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When I go into disk management and assign the HDD a drive letter, Would I have to quick format the drive or not quick format?

 

No need to format a drive that is already formatted...unless you want to get rid of the data on it.

Quote:
 Also wouldn't it erase the data that was originally on the HDD?

Yep...don't format. lol

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Or would I just leave the quick format box unticked or will not quick formatting the drive cause it to have problems and conflict with the OS that is on the SSD?

That shouldn't even be an option for you. You stated that HDD already had Windows on it. Therefore, no formatting needed. The only option should do is give it a drive letter.

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 Is this guide still applicable for a Win 7 install today? http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
Are there additional things that can be done to optimize the Win 7 SSD install further?

That's all you need for Win 7.

 

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Got it. On boot up now, the Win 7 that was installed on the SSD was able to read the 1 TB HDD along with the two partitions that I made for the HDD before I got the SSD.
However, now, I can't get to the data that was on the HDD partition that had the Win 7 OS install on it. All I see are the Windows folders, program folders and nothing else. On the other partition off of the same 1 TB HDD, I can see and access all the files because it was used for storage.

You need to navigate to the users folder to view your user account files that were on the C: partition of the drive when it was your OS drive before.

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 Now, is it advisable or even possible to just back up the data that is on the partition on the 1 TB HDD onto an external drive, then format that specific partition so that its empty and can be used for storage like the second partition I mentioned before?

Yes you can do that.

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 Now, is it advisable or even possible to just back up the data that is on the partition on the 1 TB HDD onto an external drive, then format that specific partition so that its empty and can be used for storage like the second partition I mentioned before?
Yes you can do that.
Or you can use Unlocker to delete the Windows folder (and anything else)
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