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I think the bigger security issue is if some robbers got this kind of devices, they can generally scan which house is empty and not, thus allow them to choose empty home easier, or even very useful to ninjas to detect enemies position.
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post #12 of 37
Interesting tech.
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Originally Posted by steakikan View Post

I think the bigger security issue is if some robbers got this kind of devices, they can generally scan which house is empty and not, thus allow them to choose empty home easier

Why? Why use a very expensive and high tech system when you can get the same result from sitting outside in a vehicle with a $10 pair of binoculars and look for movement through a window, or changes in light patterns around curtains that indicate a TV being on or someone moving round?

Or even simpler - get a pizza box and knock on the door. If they answer, pretend you are delivering the pizza, if they don't answer, break in. As an added bonus, if anyone sees you going up the path you have an alibi.


Edit: Grammar
Edited by GingerJohn - 10/28/15 at 10:52am
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I wonder what the frequency and power levels were used. With SDR's (software defined radio) getting better and cheaper, stuff like this will be a lot more prevalent. The concept is not toooooo crazy... but the precision needed is CRAZY. Rule of thumb i always use is 1 foot = 1 ns (0.000000001 seconds) Identifying a head vs foot on a 6 foot tall person is probably something like a .5 foot difference since its triangulated. So you need to analyse the noise to match what you sent at CRAZY intervals.

Cool stuff.
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post #14 of 37
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cool so when this tech goes mainstream, people (crims, pervs and nosey nerds) can point and shoot cameras and watch silhouettes of people in their own homes. Privacy really is going to be dead within 10 years. Governments should start to manage what can and cannot be used in public or by the public & corporations.

It's time to bring back lead paint again.
post #15 of 37
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Interesting tech.
Why? Why use a very expensive and high tech system when you can get the same result from sitting outside in a vehicle with a $10 pair of binoculars and look for movement through a window, or changes in light patterns around curtains that indicate a TV being on or someone moving round?

Or even simpler - get a pizza box, and knock on the door. They answer, pretend you are delivering the pizza, they don't break in. As an added bonus, if anyone sees you going up the path you have an alibi.

Surveillance work is expensive; for good guys and bad. It's time consuming, tedious and usually results in tons of overtime (for good guys).

This tech, like cameras, make this MUCH CHEAPER. Not saying it's a good thing. Just saying.
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post #16 of 37
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Interesting tech.
Why? Why use a very expensive and high tech system when you can get the same result from sitting outside in a vehicle with a $10 pair of binoculars and look for movement through a window, or changes in light patterns around curtains that indicate a TV being on or someone moving round?

Or even simpler - get a pizza box, and knock on the door. They answer, pretend you are delivering the pizza, they don't break in. As an added bonus, if anyone sees you going up the path you have an alibi.


Plus there's pizza if you can't break in!
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It's time to bring back lead paint again.

It's banned but any metal foil will do. However, unless you don't like day light, you won't be able to block much as EM bounces and will find their way out from the windows (think like it is a wave - because it is).
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post #18 of 37
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I think the bigger security issue is if some robbers got this kind of devices, they can generally scan which house is empty and not, thus allow them to choose empty home easier, or even very useful to ninjas to detect enemies position.

You mean kinda like if they did the same thing with infrared that has been available for a LONG time now and is even more accurate that this wifi bouncing?
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It would just all be one big white blur.

I'm sure by the time they have the technology they'll have the skill to program filtering to pass through useful picture data without it becoming a wash of static.
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I'm sure by the time they have the technology they'll have the skill to program filtering to pass through useful picture data without it becoming a wash of static.


You don't understand, seeing the entire EM spectrum at one time will always be a white blur. You have to select specific wavelengths to see.
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