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Ok good to know. Well I have 150$~ speakers so no idea how much I should spent on an AMP. I don't want to spend that much to be honest.

I was looking at the SMSL Q5. Is that a good one or total rubish for the can?

As to the question with the coaxial cable : I was reading this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_floor and it says
I am new to this so apologize my poor wording and confusion and thank you all for the helpful answers. I really appreciate it smile.gif

That amp will be fine, plus it has a remote that you wanted.


It is a class D amp, so it is really efficient. So will be more than enough power for your speakers.

Also best to use usb for the connection to the DAC.
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That amp will be fine, plus it has a remote that you wanted.


It is a class D amp, so it is really efficient. So will be more than enough power for your speakers.

Also best to use usb for the connection to the DAC.


Would you say using USB from my PC to the SMSL Q5 would be better than connecting the SMSL Q5 to my ASUS ESSENCE STX via Coaxial Digital Audio Cable?
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Yes. Also coaxial is a digital connection, it could come from a Realtek chipset or a $1000 dac and would sound the same. As you are just passing the signal to the DAC you are feeding it to.


A sync Usb atm is the best way to transmit a digital signal.
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Yes. Also coaxial is a digital connection, it could come from a Realtek chipset or a $1000 dac and would sound the same. As you are just passing the signal to the DAC you are feeding it to.


A sync Usb atm is the best way to transmit a digital signal.

Okay so basically the SMSL Q5 would act as my soundcard then correct?

Is the SMSL Q5 a full amplifier + DAC or is it only a DAC?

DACs are mostly for headphones aren't they?


argh this is all so complicated. Big kudos to all people who know this stuff in an out biggrin.gif
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Okay so basically the SMSL Q5 would act as my soundcard then correct?

Is the SMSL Q5 a full amplifier + DAC or is it only a DAC?

DACs are mostly for headphones aren't they?


argh this is all so complicated. Big kudos to all people who know this stuff in an out biggrin.gif

A Soundcard is a DAC.

DAC = Digital to Analog Converter. It is the chip that converts Digital Audio to Analog.


The SMSL Q5 is a multifunction unit, it is both a DAC and a Amp.

The Audio is first Converted into Analog by the DAC and then feed into the internal AMP, which powers your speakers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bxf8_WzGrI

This video may also help you out.
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A Soundcard is a DAC.

DAC = Digital to Analog Converter. It is the chip that converts Digital Audio to Analog.


The SMSL Q5 is a multifunction unit, it is both a DAC and a Amp.

The Audio is first Converted into Analog by the DAC and then feed into the internal AMP, which powers your speakers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bxf8_WzGrI

This video may also help you out.

Thanks for the video. I actually watched a couple of videos from that guy. He praised the Teac LS 265H and that is why I initially eyed them smile.gif


With the SMSL Q5 connected via USB and Q Acoustics 2010i would I still have any Noise floor ?
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Thanks for the video. I actually watched a couple of videos from that guy. He praised the Teac LS 265H and that is why I initially eyed them smile.gif


With the SMSL Q5 connected via USB and Q Acoustics 2010i would I still have any Noise floor ?

That's funny. You will have a noise floor on anything from a $2 pair of earbuds to $100 000 speakers.

Otherwise you'd be able to hear things that were impossibly quiet. Like ant farts.
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That's funny. You will have a noise floor on anything from a $2 pair of earbuds to $100 000 speakers.

Otherwise you'd be able to hear things that were impossibly quiet. Like ant farts.


Oh okay. That is unfortunate frown.gif

I read somewhere that with Digital Audio cables or SPDIF that noise floor would be reduced or even gone.



(On my Beyerdynamics headsets (600 ohm if that matters) that are connected to the ASUS STX there is absolutely no noise, atleast that I can tell, when there is no audio playing. Maybe it is nearly inaudible for my ears, but on my Q Acoustics 2010i I can definitely tell that there is noise when the AMP is turned on without audio playing. )
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Oh okay. That is unfortunate frown.gif

I read somewhere that with Digital Audio cables or SPDIF that noise floor would be reduced or even gone.



(On my Beyerdynamics headsets (600 ohm if that matters) that are connected to the ASUS STX there is absolutely no noise, atleast that I can tell, when there is no audio playing. Maybe it is nearly inaudible for my ears, but on my Q Acoustics 2010i I can definitely tell that there is noise when the AMP is turned on without audio playing. )

Yeah depends on the AMP mostly, and the type of amp.

Some amps have a hiss. Could be from the way it is designed or from the powersupply.

My Yamaha has no amp hiss unless I turn it up to +8db+ (goes to +16) which is a level that I would never go to anyways. Otherwise I'd be def, as that is a really high volume level. Which is pretty common for most modern amps, they don't have that hiss older models used to have. And if they do, they are at the point you would never use.

Also could be from the DAC or Soundcard as well, but you would know if it is or not when you unplug any source from the unit.


Really isn't that big of a deal, old Stereo amps have a natural hiss to them. Most people didn't care back in the day, as a Record or Tape had a hiss to it as well.


Love his video's as well. He also is a advocate for the JBL LSR305, which are as good as people make them out to be. For Monitor's they are hard to beat in the price range, even if they are not the best looking speaker around. The Vanatoo T1's are also awesome speakers, for nearfields.
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Ok good to know. Well I have 150$~ speakers so no idea how much I should spent on an AMP. I don't want to spend that much to be honest.

The general consensus is that amplification, speaker and source device should all cost about the same ie be of the same quality.

I was looking at the SMSL Q5. Is that a good one or total rubish for the can?

You're asking if this fast food cheeseburger is better than that fast food cheeseburger. If you're worried about that, buy a steak dinner.

As to the question with the coaxial cable : I was reading this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_floor and it says
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In special circumstances, the noise floor can also be artificially lowered with digital signal processing techniques.

With a $100 amp the last of your worries is the noise floor of some cable. Any noise from cabling will be buried way below the noise from the amp.

I am new to this so apologize my poor wording and confusion and thank you all for the helpful answers. I really appreciate it smile.gif
We were all new sometime. You're asking good questions. except that they would be good to ask about a $,.000 amp.
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