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I have an Asus M4A77TD and AMD Phenom II X6 1055T. No overclocking or other adjustments had been made to the BIOS (other than disk setup). I ran into an issue with my RAID setup and wanted to change over to a single SSD, so I reset the BIOS to wipe out the configuration. That worked fine, but the mobo won't run for much longer than 5 minutes without crashing. Everything ran stable for years before the BIOS reset. What might the reset have changed that would make the system crash? As an attempt to get the system working, I flashed the latest BIOS, with no change - still crashes. Any tips would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, right now I don't have any disks connected to the SATA ports and the system is set for no RAID. The system will crash just sitting on the BIOS setup page.
Edited by jamesw1008 - 10/28/15 at 9:43am
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Have you checked Windows Device Manager for problems?
Have you checked Windows Event Viewer for errors or warnings at start up or just before a crash occurred?

Or easier:
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Hi,

My issue doesn't have anything to do with Windows - the RAID array is gone (which had Windows 7 on it) and the system will crash just sitting on the BIOS setup screen, without having any hard disks connected. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but it seems like it must be something in the BIOS setup, since the crash problem only started after resetting the BIOS.
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Hi,

My issue doesn't have anything to do with Windows - the RAID array is gone (which had Windows 7 on it) and the system will crash just sitting on the BIOS setup screen, without having any hard disks connected. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but it seems like it must be something in the BIOS setup, since the crash problem only started after resetting the BIOS.

Ok. What kind of RAID was it, 0 (Striped) or 1 (Mirrored)?

What operating system?

Was the boot sector on the SSD or the array?
In other words, what was set as the default drive (boot drive) in the BIOS when you installed Windows? It doesn't make any difference where the actual Windows folder got installed. The boot drive (with the boot sector) will be the one that was set as the boot drive in the BIOS when Windows was installed and that drive got the boot sector.
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Hi - thanks for getting back to me. It was a RAID 0 setup. Boot up was on the RAID, but all that info is cleared out now and no drives are connected. It crashes just sitting on the BIOS setup screen.
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The system previously was Windows 7.
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Hi - thanks for getting back to me. It was a RAID 0 setup. Boot up was on the RAID, but all that info is cleared out now and no drives are connected. It crashes just sitting on the BIOS setup screen.
Pretty much the only way a computer will crash while in the BIOS is if it overheats. Once you get past post up, pretty much everything has to be OK or you'd get error messages before the BIOS key press option appears. Have you checked temps? You could also use a volt meter to check the 12V output on a spare molex power connector.

Next step would be to take everything out of the case and set up Mobo, PSU, one stick of memory, and video and see if it will boot. If no boot, then you know the problem is one of those 5 things (counting the CPU too).
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CPU and case temps look fine. Never gets over 35 degrees C before crashing. I'm going to try swapping the PSU and see if that makes a difference. Years back I had a mobo that upon BIOS reset did something similar. The mobo vendor tech support pointed out a 'hidden' setup screen that had a critical setting.
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CPU and case temps look fine. Never gets over 35 degrees C before crashing. I'm going to try swapping the PSU and see if that makes a difference. Years back I had a mobo that upon BIOS reset did something similar. The mobo vendor tech support pointed out a 'hidden' setup screen that had a critical setting.
I assumed you had checked all BIOS settings. What motherboard do you have? "Hidden setting"? I've never heard of that.
Many BIOSs have options that don't appear until you make a certain selection, like choosing to manually set CPU speed, then a whole bunch of options appear, but they're not really "hidden".
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2 X Samsung 915N Ducky Shine III, Blue Cherry/Blue LEDs PCP&C 1kw Lian Li PC-71 (W/Window) 
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post #10 of 13
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Its an Asus M4A77TD and AMD Phenom II X6 1055T. No overclocking or other adjustments had been made. I have checked all the settings and don't see anything strange. But it's hard to know what might cause a problem. The 'Hidden' thing was from an earlier mobo, ECS I think. It was a separate setup area from the main BIOS setup. I don't know of anything like that on this mobo.

I tried pointing a space heater into the case to warm things up and see if that made it crash faster. When I booted up the CPU and case were at about 50 degrees C. It ran the same 3-5 minutes before crashing, so some heat didn't seem to change the behavior.

I'm going to go and swap the PSU and see what that does.
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