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I use basic cheapo surge protector like this one:



We rarely get power outages where I live. However, I noticed some people from here buy power conditioners, like Furman M-8x2 and/or high-end surge protectors. Does it makes sense for me to do the same? Do they actually help with anything? They couldn't help you achieve a OC on CPU and/or GPU, would they? I have a decent Corsair Gold AX850 (850W) PSU that worked great so far. Is there any good reason for me to get a high-end surge protector and/or power conditioner? Power conditioners = high-end surge protector, right?

If I should get one - which one should I get? I am not running some kind of sensitive servers here, so I do not need something very expensive, but something just right for my rig.
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For a computer you really don't need a power conditioner. At best it might extend the life of your PSU. But I would definitely get a better surge protector than the basic one you get at the dollar store. Get something that is "insured" for the equipment you have behind it. That way, if lightning takes out your box, you have a chance to re-coupe. A better surge suppressor also has a better chance of preventing your equipment from getting fried.

But don't forget, you need to put everything on a surge protector if it plugs into your computer. Cable lines, modems, routers etc.

And if I'm wrong on any of this, you can bet someone will be along shortly to rub it in my face. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by MonarchX View Post

I use basic cheapo surge protector like this one:



We rarely get power outages where I live. However, I noticed some people from here buy power conditioners, like Furman M-8x2 and/or high-end surge protectors. Does it makes sense for me to do the same? Do they actually help with anything? They couldn't help you achieve a OC on CPU and/or GPU, would they? I have a decent Corsair Gold AX850 (850W) PSU that worked great so far. Is there any good reason for me to get a high-end surge protector and/or power conditioner? Power conditioners = high-end surge protector, right?

If I should get one - which one should I get? I am not running some kind of sensitive servers here, so I do not need something very expensive, but something just right for my rig.
A PSU is in effect a power conditioner which is why it pays to buy a decent one, which you have.

Do you need to spend a lot on surge protection? Not really, if you live in a area which experiences a lot of lightning strikes then I would buy a quality one that protects your phone line and TV aerial as well as power outlets but otherwise the cheapies do the job.
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Originally Posted by wizardonthejob View Post

For a computer you really don't need a power conditioner. At best it might extend the life of your PSU. But I would definitely get a better surge protector than the basic one you get at the dollar store. Get something that is "insured" for the equipment you have behind it. That way, if lightning takes out your box, you have a chance to re-coupe. A better surge suppressor also has a better chance of preventing your equipment from getting fried.

But don't forget, you need to put everything on a surge protector if it plugs into your computer. Cable lines, modems, routers etc.

And if I'm wrong on any of this, you can bet someone will be along shortly to rub it in my face. biggrin.gif
Not saying your wrong but ever tried to claim insurance from a surge protection device policy? Anythings possible I suppose?
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Depending on how your room's outlets are setup it may be best to have a dedicated power line for your computer if there are other high wattage components on the same circuit. If you have a finished basement or something that would make that a hard task you would be well off getting a good uninterruptable power supply. Not only will it provide power for you to shut off safely in the event of an outage they can also regulate voltages to prevent brown outs and provide surge protection.
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Thank you!

Do you have any advice as to which decent protector/conditioner I could get?

Thanks again!
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I've been ordering Triplite surge protectors for years at my work (IT, so I order a lot). Rarely do they fail and it's likely the buildings fault anyway.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882750086&cm_re=surge_protector_triplite-_-82-750-086-_-Product

If you have it in the budget, an uninterruptable power supply is always a nice luxury.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V3985874&cm_re=apc_battery_backup-_-42-101-311-_-Product

A quick and informative read:
http://www.cnet.com/news/9-things-you-should-know-about-surge-protectors/

EDIT: Just bare in mind, if you get the UPS, you still need a good surge protector. As the article states, it's all about the joules, and the UPS alone has little protection in that area.
Edited by WizardontheJob - 10/30/15 at 10:44am
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Very good info ^

At the very least verify your ground is working on your plug. I've had huge static discharges on an ungrounded outlet before and I'm lucky it didn't fry my computer.
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