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post #11 of 46
Smartphone bubble pops? Or is this business as usual? To me it just sounds like the market is not really an independent market of it's own, just a subset of electronics in general.
Edited by un-midas touch - 10/29/15 at 2:30pm
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post #12 of 46
It is a bit tricky to precisely position yourself to be profitable in the mobile market. Mobile after all, can hugely boost your business in many ways other than simple sales. Just look at Apple for this success. They have an entire eco-system of devices and services built around the phone. Their profits are huge because the user experience of their company is simply the best.

Just look at Samsung. They have a similar eco system built around all of their products but they are barely functional if they do indeed work together well. There is a Samsung app store. Android app store, which requires a gmail... screen mirroring uses miracast which requires a dongle for some of theiir models. Their smart watches run Tizen... just like their smart TVs and appliances. Its just a headache inducing mess.

Meanwhile with Apple everything works a ton better. Currently in retail 50% of customers who walk in store will not know how to use iCloud. Thats abysmal. They cant setup their appleid, cloud information, even emails sometimes. But you know how many people know how to backup through Android's google drive backup? 1%. Thats right. Anyone who ever used a Samsung is completely incapable of transferring their data without help.

When I worked in best buy I had to sell the chromecast. The AppleTV? No selling. People came and bought it.

That is the kind of power that a good Mobile eco-system can buy you. Most people have a part of their life converge around their smartphone. You can take that and make a much larger part of their lives and wallets to be dependent on their smartphone. If I had no interest in technology whatsoever, I would undoubtedly stick with Apple.

Thats why it never surprises me when smartphone manufacturers lose money. Now I like LG. Imo, they are the only manufacturer who still offers removable batteries, sd expansion, and excellent flagship level specs in an attractive and well made package that is readily available at all carriers. But consumers dont care about that, and when I really think about it. Neither do I. There isnt a huge market for the demographic that LG is targetting. LG needs to focus more on polish, rather than gimmicky specs(hello lgv10).
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post #13 of 46
Still rocking my m7, really feel no need to upgrade as it does everything I need to and more with custom roms

The only reason to upgrade would be because the camera sucks now with the purple tint

But I have a nex5t if u really want to take pictures anyways
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Originally Posted by Nvidia Fanboy View Post

Smartphones have definitely reached the saturation point. All modern smartphones have great cameras, video recorders, fast enough internet, access to GPS, maps, voice controls, calculators, alarm clocks, games, music..... What more do we really want?

My galaxy s4 is on it's death throes but if it still functioned like it did when I first got it, I wouldn't even think about replacing it.

I feel the same about my Note 3, but mine is far from its death bed, I'm running a Note 5 full port, which comes with Android 5.1.1

I won't be upgrading until the Note 6 ( maybe )
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The thing about phones is that now there is a ton of planned obsolescence and corner cutting done to them. As time goes on, your USB/Lighting port gets worn, so it gets very loose or it fails to work all together. Then, your flash memory begins to slow down and degrade from usage. Your battery begins to degrade, and Samsung recently threw in the towel with easy user replaceable ones. If you are on Android, you are pretty much going to be left behind unless you are running a Motorola or a Nexus device, and if you are running an Apple device, new iOS releases down the road are going to bog down your phone to a snails pace, essentially forcing you to update.

I really don't like where the phone market, at least on Android, is headed. Its yet again become another useless pissing contest of specs instead of showing regard and attention of the overall phone. Its all about having the fastest processor, the most pixels you can cram on a screen, the most amount of RAM you won't reasonably be able to use, and who's winning on the AnTuTu benchmarks. I don't get why there is such an extreme focus on the power of phones. The Snapdragon 805 can already viciously murder most, if not all apps currently out there on the Google Play Store. What else is going to realistically demand more power than what is already available? Until such an app is created, I much rather them focus on reducing power consumption so I don't have to plug in so often. I'm also going to flat out and say that anything higher than 1080p is massive overkill on a phone display. I have a Nexus 6 with a QHD display and I need to basically hold my phone unrealistically close to my face to see the difference between my old Moto X 2013 edition with 4x less pixels on a 4.7" display.
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post #16 of 46

Well they really haven't made anything ground breaking for years. Most of there phones have been meh.

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Well they really haven't made anything ground breaking for years. Most of there phones have been meh.

Nexus 5, LG G3, LG Flex.. Keeping the sd card and removable battery when nearly every other company is removing them.. thanks for your opinion.


Hoping they do bring something new to the table for the G5 though. They have done well not to copy Samsung, long may that continue!
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Quote:
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At some point the smartphone has to peak just like the PC, where you don't need to ugrade every 6 months, or year or even for several years...

 

This.

 

Honestly - I don't see myself upgrading from my 930 at all until it breaks.

   
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Meanwhile, in Canada, probably the only unique Android device in years is about to be released in the Google-Blackberry team-up Priv handset on Nov. 6th.

5.4" dual curved QHD AMOLED screen, Blackberry Hub to group all notifications, Snapdragon 808, 3410mah battery supporting both forms of wireless charging and quickcharge capability, 18mp OIS sneider kreuznach camera, and built in security ranging from cryptographic PIN injection chip hardware to a hardened Linux kernel and DTEK active app monitoring to notify of suspicious behavior...Oh, and a perfectly balanced slide-out capacitive touch physical keyboard that doubles as a track pad and whose keys can be programmed to quick launch apps or open conversations with your favorite contacts. $699 USD. Also still has a micro SD.

An AMA was posted 6hrs ago on /r/android and both Android and Blackberry users alike are raving about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3qq35s/i_have_the_blackberry_priv_in_hand_and_will_be/
Edited by Puck - 10/29/15 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

Meanwhile, in Canada, probably the only unique Android device in years is about to be released in the Google-Blackberry team-up Priv handset on Nov. 6th.

5.4" dual curved QHD AMOLED screen, Blackberry Hub to group all notifications, Snapdragon 808, 3410mah battery supporting both forms of wireless charging and quickcharge capability, 18mp OIS sneider kreuznach camera, and built in security ranging from cryptographic PIN injection chip hardware to a hardened Linux kernel and DTEK active app monitoring to notify of suspicious behavior...Oh, and a perfectly balanced slide-out capacitive touch physical keyboard that doubles as a track pad and whose keys can be programmed to quick launch apps or open conversations with your favorite contacts. $699 USD.

An AMA was posted 6hrs ago on /r/android and both Android and Blackberry users alike are raving about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3qq35s/i_have_the_blackberry_priv_in_hand_and_will_be/

This looks really awesome. I saw it the other day and it is a nice design and a throw back to sliders. +1 to blackberry. -.15 cuz it's not Verizon compatible.

Other posts mentioned the pissing contest for phones on who has the best specs. I miss the days of the nexus one, I would buy another nexus one with updated specs same size.
 
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