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At some point the smartphone has to peak just like the PC, where you don't need to ugrade every 6 months, or year or even for several years...

But...Iphone!
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This looks really awesome. I saw it the other day and it is a nice design and a throw back to sliders. +1 to blackberry. -.15 cuz it's not Verizon compatible.

Other posts mentioned the pissing contest for phones on who has the best specs. I miss the days of the nexus one, I would buy another nexus one with updated specs same size.

Yea, rather then succumb to the spec war and come out with a power hungry 4k screen and Snapdragon 810 or even wait for the 820, they kept the tried and true 808 which uses less battery life.

Somehow also managed to fit a 3410mah battery in a SLIDER that is barely any thicker then an iPhone 6+ and thinner then the Note 5. To keep it sleek the curved screen actually sits partially inside the metal frame, not just on it. Very impressive. Micro SD too!
Edited by Puck - 10/29/15 at 5:16pm
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Damn, dotcom burst incoming? Just got my LG G4 and Im loving the heck out of it.
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Love my G3. Will continue to be a customer as long as they don't samsung everything up and make the battery stuck in with no microsd slot. Gluing the back on does NOT make it higher quality. It's just that idiots that review it think it feels more solid because the back doesn't come off. /minirant
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replaced my note 3 and bought a v10 today after my last 6 years of phones being samsung, samsung lost me with the no sdcard and no removable battery.

also i got a 64gb v10 with free 200gb microsd card for buying it.
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It is a bit tricky to precisely position yourself to be profitable in the mobile market. Mobile after all, can hugely boost your business in many ways other than simple sales. Just look at Apple for this success. They have an entire eco-system of devices and services built around the phone. Their profits are huge because the user experience of their company is simply the best.

Just look at Samsung. They have a similar eco system built around all of their products but they are barely functional if they do indeed work together well. There is a Samsung app store. Android app store, which requires a gmail... screen mirroring uses miracast which requires a dongle for some of theiir models. Their smart watches run Tizen... just like their smart TVs and appliances. Its just a headache inducing mess.

Meanwhile with Apple everything works a ton better. Currently in retail 50% of customers who walk in store will not know how to use iCloud. Thats abysmal. They cant setup their appleid, cloud information, even emails sometimes. But you know how many people know how to backup through Android's google drive backup? 1%. Thats right. Anyone who ever used a Samsung is completely incapable of transferring their data without help.

When I worked in best buy I had to sell the chromecast. The AppleTV? No selling. People came and bought it.

That is the kind of power that a good Mobile eco-system can buy you. Most people have a part of their life converge around their smartphone. You can take that and make a much larger part of their lives and wallets to be dependent on their smartphone. If I had no interest in technology whatsoever, I would undoubtedly stick with Apple.

Thats why it never surprises me when smartphone manufacturers lose money. Now I like LG. Imo, they are the only manufacturer who still offers removable batteries, sd expansion, and excellent flagship level specs in an attractive and well made package that is readily available at all carriers. But consumers dont care about that, and when I really think about it. Neither do I. There isnt a huge market for the demographic that LG is targetting. LG needs to focus more on polish, rather than gimmicky specs(hello lgv10).

I disagree with almost everything you said.

Apple products are far from perfect. My fiancé is on her 4th iPhone 6 due to it crashing, locking up, speaker failure etc. I'm still on my LG g3. Bought it new. Only recently added a g4. Would never go back to Apple. It's just... Lame. Pretty, but lame.

Apple requires that everything be tied in to iTunes and all their proprietary systems, whereas android allows more freedom. True, some of the apps are not fully polished, but you have such a large selection chances are you will find a version that is.

Android allows for more customization options, and a ton of different hardware options from a variety of manufacturers. Apple gives you 2 choices, big or small.

None of my smartphones require a dongle to connect to TV. All done through wifi, with one tap.

Android is massive and in 2015 is only getting bigger. iOS is dropping.

The list goes on. Apple caters to the vain and the stupid.

I agree with your point that most people don't know how to use an android. Some of that is due to it allows you to do more. Some of it is because it's cheaper, and less educated people have less to spend on a smart phonephone, much less how to Google "how to back up insert phone model here" .

Typing on mobile, so I won't elaborate too much. I think you are voicing your personal experience and personal opinion and not looking at all the details
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I disagree with almost everything you said.

Apple products are far from perfect. My fiancé is on her 4th iPhone 6 due to it crashing, locking up, speaker failure etc. I'm still on my LG g3. Bought it new. Only recently added a g4. Would never go back to Apple. It's just... Lame. Pretty, but lame.

Apple requires that everything be tied in to iTunes and all their proprietary systems, whereas android allows more freedom. True, some of the apps are not fully polished, but you have such a large selection chances are you will find a version that is.

Android allows for more customization options, and a ton of different hardware options from a variety of manufacturers. Apple gives you 2 choices, big or small.

None of my smartphones require a dongle to connect to TV. All done through wifi, with one tap.

Android is massive and in 2015 is only getting bigger. iOS is dropping.

The list goes on. Apple caters to the vain and the stupid.

I agree with your point that most people don't know how to use an android. Some of that is due to it allows you to do more. Some of it is because it's cheaper, and less educated people have less to spend on a smart phonephone, much less how to Google "how to back up insert phone model here" .

Typing on mobile, so I won't elaborate too much. I think you are voicing your personal experience and personal opinion and not looking at all the details

Really hard to believe that. I never had to replace any of my Apple products, ever. I own an iPod Touch, iPad 2, iPad Air, iMac, Macbook and an iPhone 6S Plus. Never had any speakers failures, locking up or crashing. My brother's iPhone 6 has some issues with his screen not responding at times but he treats his phone rather poorly and recklessly. My phone prior to the iPhone 6S Plus which I got just recently, was an HTC One, awful. Android and its OS infrastructure and eco-system is just awful, bunch of bloatware and unnecessary accounts linking. I don't think I will ever go back to Android, I had multiple software issues with it such as camera application crashing, music player not displaying the proper track progress and unnecessary over-usage of RAM in browsers. If I were to return to Android I would most probably pick the OnePlus(Insert Number Here) or a Samsung phone. I remember that with each software update, performance dropped dramatically along with OS stability. Never faced any issues when updating my Apple devices to newer OSes. The only thing I really like about Android is its versatility and customisability.
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Really hard to believe that. I never had to replace any of my Apple products, ever. I own an iPod Touch, iPad 2, iPad Air, iMac, Macbook and an iPhone 6S Plus. Never had any speakers failures, locking up or crashing. My brother's iPhone 6 has some issues with his screen not responding at times but he treats his phone rather poorly and recklessly. My phone prior to the iPhone 6S Plus which I got just recently, was an HTC One, awful. Android and its OS infrastructure and eco-system is just awful, bunch of bloatware and unnecessary accounts linking. I don't think I will ever go back to Android, I had multiple software issues with it such as camera application crashing, music player not displaying the proper track progress and unnecessary over-usage of RAM in browsers. If I were to return to Android I would most probably pick the OnePlus(Insert Number Here) or a Samsung phone. I remember that with each software update, performance dropped dramatically along with OS stability. Never faced any issues when updating my Apple devices to newer OSes. The only thing I really like about Android is its versatility and customisability.

I understand why people love Apple products it just works from the get go but Android is not an awful ecosystem. The thing is OEM do not know how to optimize the OS. If you are like me who does some fiddling it can be fine tuned even better than ios. I never been on a single ROM for over a month not because it's bad but i don't. I do own a 5S and macbook air 2013, the advantages of using that is limited than it's rivals.
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The mobile phone market needs to change, phones have become more gimmicky then functional (I guess that what sells, or gives them rights to boast).
I wish companies would focus more on more robust and efficient designs, something that actually can hold a charge for more than a day and not have to consume loads of bandwidth just to operate and we really don't need 1080p screen in a 5" package, all thats doing is pushing the processor and power requirements to drive it.

On topic, it must be a cut throat industry in the mobile market with the vast volume of phones each brand releases every year, LG makes some nice phones, although it annoys me when they lock out support for communities from developing more efficient ROMS for said phones. Like my LG L7 II, it's not a powerful phone, but if it was actually optimized it would run so much better and be functional (Which is the experience with the Motorola Defy I owned, night and day difference from running stock to running a custom ROM), but LG they used odd hardware so when you actually put a custom ROM on the device, you end up loosing functionality or some features become glitchy.
I guess they do all that to force a life limit on the phone so you purchase another one. I'm just glad I've moved to a CynogenOS based phone now, I hope I get more than two years out of this phone due to community support
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we really don't need 1080p screen in a 5" package, all thats doing is pushing the processor and power requirements to drive it.

You know what, that's your opinion. If you like seeing crazy aliasing on your phone you go right ahead and buy a 1080p phone. I wouldn't go for less than 1440p after having my G3. 1080p is stoneage technology for mobile phones. Wasn't there a 4k phone recently from sony that had 2 day battery life?
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