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Hi there.

Currently I have a not so good PSU (it's in the build below) that, apparently causes my RoG motherboard to whine like crazy. I had the same issue with an earlier board I have (GA-F2A88XM-DS2), so, thinking that it's the boards fault, I bought the best one for this CPU. Needles to say, I had a very mild improvement in coil whine, that for some reason went off the scale few weeks ago. I noticed that overclocking my CPU made the coil whine worse, so I reverted everything to factory settings, but that still didn't get rid of the coil whine completely.

Now, after being tired of having a RoG board, excellent tower cooler, a possible good overclocking CPU, coupled with a lousy PSU that's giving me some serious tinnitus problems when overclocking, here I am, asking for your help in finding a decent PSU that will nicely compliment my system!


1. I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina. Hardware is mostly expensive here, so I probably wont be getting a brand new PSU, but a used one.
2. I would be willing to spend around 70$ MAX.
3. My current PSU is 500W, so, nothing below that. 500-600W is fine.
4. Currently I have a R7 260X GPU, 95w Athlon and a 1TB HDD. In near future I will upgrade the GPU to something like R9 380, nothing stronger than that, and slipping a 120 GB SSD in there.

So far into my search for (used) PSU, I have narrowed the choice to these 3:
a) SilverStone SST-ST50F-230 / 500w
b) ANTEC TRUE POWER 550 (probably least used, most expensive)
c) be quiet! dark power P6 530W (cheapest one)

What do you guys think about the three choices above ?

Can someone with a Steamroller rig recommend an alternative, that they personally use and know from experience that it doesn't produce coil whine ?


Thank you for bearing with me. I hope to make an informed decision soon and finally start using my rig to its full capacity.
post #2 of 18

The PSU you have now is a pretty low-quality unit, so it's not a surprise to me that it's a problem.

 

Of the 3, the 2nd one is the best one. Is it the TruePower New? I'm assuming so. Bear in mind though that when it comes to PSUs, buying used can potentially be a very bad idea because  you don't know what it has been through. It's a little bit like buying used rechargeable batteries.

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post #3 of 18
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The PSU you have now is a pretty low-quality unit, so it's not a surprise to me that it's a problem.

Of the 3, the 2nd one is the best one. Is it the TruePower New? I'm assuming so. Bear in mind though that when it comes to PSUs, buying used can potentially be a very bad idea because  you don't know what it has been through. It's a little bit like buying used rechargeable batteries.

Yeah I get the risks. That one is at least in my city so I don't have to travel or order it by mail. It's THIS one.
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Yep, that's the TruePower New! If it didn't have a bad life, then it's definitely the best one on that list. It's a much higher-quality unit than the other 2.

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post #5 of 18
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Yep, that's the TruePower New! If it didn't have a bad life, then it's definitely the best one on that list. It's a much higher-quality unit than the other 2.

The price translates to cca 50 $. The guy states that the PSU was barely used. So far it looks that way from pictures, but I will know for sure in few days.
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The price translates to cca 50 $. The guy states that the PSU was barely used. So far it looks that way from pictures, but I will know for sure in few days.

 

I think you'll love it. Here's some more positive stuff about it:

 

Quote:
True Power New (aka TPN) - The True Power New series is one of Antec's newer series, and boy is it a doozy. They returned to SeaSonic again and, um... combined the TP3 units with the SeaSonic M12D platform? Whatever they did, the result was pure awesomesauce on a bun, resulting in a superb 750W power supply that performs comparably to the then reigning champion Corsair HX750, for the significantly lower price of the TX750. The voltage stability is excellent and the ripple suppression is too! And it's partially modular? Holy crap, this is amazing! And the 550W version can be had for a mere $65 AMIR at Newegg at time of writing. GO. BUY NOW. Seriously, that's the best PSU bang for the buck I've ever seen (Well, except for the SeaSonic M12D 850W for $140. But that only lasted, like, two days before they sold out so it doesn't really count. Wish I'd picked up on it, though).

The only thing dragging this line down is the partial modularity, and... Both 4+4 and 8-pin mobo connectors? You only need one of those cables on a 750W PSU, any system that needs both won't run on a 750W unit in all likelihood. But otherwise they're superb! They make the Corsair TX series obsolete, and give the HX series a run for its money.

 

Source: http://www.overclock.net/t/741499/on-antec/

 

The Corsair HX series he referred to are the original Bronze-rated units. The TX750 he referred to was probably the original too.

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post #7 of 18
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I think you'll love it. Here's some more positive stuff about it:


Source: http://www.overclock.net/t/741499/on-antec/

The Corsair HX series he referred to are the original Bronze-rated units. The TX750 he referred to was probably the original too.

Thanks for the encouragement. I've also read all good things about it, from different sources.

A question though. Is it possible that my current PSU somehow made permanent damage to my system and that it whines even with a different, much better PSU ? Can that even happen ? I'm using Crossblade Ranger for around 3 months now, hope it wont "sing" with new PSU.
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So I bought that ANTEC TPN 550W and I am very pleased. My rig doesn't make my ears bleed anymore, I even overclocked it moderately, and still no coil whine from mobo (something I couldn't have done on SAGA II, without having a reflex to leave the room).

One thing about the new PSU is that it itself produces an obvious coil whine, even when PC is off, BUT, its more localized and is drowned by fan noises once I turn the PC on. I have a on/off button on my extension cable anyway, that I use when I turn off my PC, so no problem there.

Well, thank you for your help. I have learned my lesson: Don't neglect to do a research on PSU's as it will bite you in the ass later if you leave it to chance.
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So I bought that ANTEC TPN 550W and I am very pleased. My rig doesn't make my ears bleed anymore, I even overclocked it moderately, and still no coil whine from mobo (something I couldn't have done on SAGA II, without having a reflex to leave the room).

One thing about the new PSU is that it itself produces an obvious coil whine, even when PC is off, BUT, its more localized and is drowned by fan noises once I turn the PC on. I have a on/off button on my extension cable anyway, that I use when I turn off my PC, so no problem there.

Well, thank you for your help. I have learned my lesson: Don't neglect to do a research on PSU's as it will bite you in the ass later if you leave it to chance.

 

I'm relieved that you have a way to get relief from this strange noise that it's making even when the computer is off! I'm also relieved to see that after reading your question about permanent damage, apparently no permanent damage has been done. If I had been around to answer that before your last post here, then I probably only would have been able to say, "It's very possible, but let's wait and see." So yeah, WHEW. :)

 

As you've seen, the power supply is just about the most important part in a computer - it's an investment. Unfortunately, there's no law against manufacturing and selling dangerously low-quality PSUs, so we have a tough job as enthusiasts to be careful about making sure we avoid the bad PSUs. Even more difficult is that we don't just have low-quality and high-quality PSUs: there's a complete range of quality. It can be extremely overwhelming. Buying a good PSU becomes even more important when overclocking because the better the PSU, the more stable and accurate its power delivery is, and that can translate to better and easier overclocking than what otherwise could be achieved with a low-quality PSU.

 

Anyway, I'm very very very happy that everything is all good now. I do admit that I wonder if you're experiencing the reason why this person wanted to sell their TP-550, but hey, their loss is your gain because you have that easy way to get relief from the weird noise after you turn the computer off and you ended up with the very best of the 3 choices!

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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
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Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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post #10 of 18
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I'm relieved that you have a way to get relief from this strange noise that it's making even when the computer is off! I'm also relieved to see that after reading your question about permanent damage, apparently no permanent damage has been done. If I had been around to answer that before your last post here, then I probably only would have been able to say, "It's very possible, but let's wait and see." So yeah, WHEW. smile.gif

As you've seen, the power supply is just about the most important part in a computer - it's an investment. Unfortunately, there's no law against manufacturing and selling dangerously low-quality PSUs, so we have a tough job as enthusiasts to be careful about making sure we avoid the bad PSUs. Even more difficult is that we don't just have low-quality and high-quality PSUs: there's a complete range of quality. It can be extremely overwhelming. Buying a good PSU becomes even more important when overclocking because the better the PSU, the more stable and accurate its power delivery is, and that can translate to better and easier overclocking than what otherwise could be achieved with a low-quality PSU.

Anyway, I'm very very very happy that everything is all good now. I do admit that I wonder if you're experiencing the reason why this person wanted to sell their TP-550, but hey, their loss is your gain because you have that easy way to get relief from the weird noise after you turn the computer off and you ended up with the very best of the 3 choices!

Yeah, best answer to my question would be "wait and see" smile.gif

I will be building a PC for my best friend soon and I'm glad he will be spared of mistakes I made when building mine. I know it will be easier, cause he gave me only one criteria: "Buy the best of the best so I don't ever have to think about it". Boy he sure knows what he wants!

I was wondering the same too about my new PSU. It's a very obvious noise, but even now, with only my browser opened, I cant hear it from fans (namely 1 aerocool loud one that came with the casing). Few days ago I thought I needed to buy a brand new PSU that will cost me a small fortune, but thanx to some spontaneity and with your help, I solved the problem in 2 days.

I appreciate the help. Thank you.
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