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So much doh.gif

It took a long time to even get some software working correctly on 7, pretty sure some of my business software will absolutely not work on 10, and the promotional programs that i have installed, basically a 1 time install would surely be nuked.

I don't think MS can go so far as to automatically upgrade PC's to 10, major lawsuits from business would occur. We all know how the bank down the street is still using Win XP or maybe JUST got everything switched to Win 7 within the last few years. I doubt their machines will be upgrading OS for a long time again...
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I got a 1 TB SSD for my maindrive now, so I guess I'll format it for 750 GB Windows 7 and 250 GB Linux.
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How's it any different to Apple pushing iOS or carriers pushing Android updates?
   
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What happens on non-genuine machines?

I can only tell you about not-activated RTM version without getting into trouble. There's no countdown, just the usual "Activate Windows" nag at the bottom right that's on top of everything. I think nothing will happen to non-activated windows 10 installation until that 1 year limit for free upgrade is reached. That's probably July 29 of 2016.
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How's it any different to Apple pushing iOS or carriers pushing Android updates?

I don't use Apple devices or locked Android devices for that exact reason. At least with windows you can still uninstall the updates and disable them from reinstalling, but only if you know how. I see a lot of senor citizen visits in my near future reinstalling Windows 7 or fixing things that don't work in 10.
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This is why I've switched to Mac OS. Linux just doesn't cut it for me in the software department and Microsoft doesn't know what they want to do with Windows. Cannot stand this Bad Good Bad Good Bad update crap.
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I tried Windows 10 for about a week. That's how long Windows 10 lasted for me.

I reformatted and installed Linux, and I absolutely love it.
This is my first time with Linux, and I see few reasons to switch back.
Everything worked out well with my first distro. Linux mint is great.

The learning curve is not steep. If anything it's stepping out of the "familiar zone" and acquainting oneself with a new OS (much like I would have to do with Windows 10).
In my opinion, the opposite is true.
I care about gaming, and the more people on Linux the better.
Although I let others make their own choices, as I have made mine.
(And I don't try to actively influence their decisions for my benefit)

Glad it's working out for you, i don't pretend to be the most tech savvy person, so maybe that heavily influenced my dislike for the versions of Linux i tried. I don't remember specifics, but some really mundane things i could do on Windows drove me nuts in Linux. It reminded me of right-clicking on a mac. biggrin.gif

Linux may well be better for gaming, but we'll never know. I'm a realist, and i want to have the best experience with games now, not in the very distant future. Getting PC gamers on to one platform and API is far more likely with Windows 10 and DX12 than it is with Linux and Vulcan. Maybe if Valve actually committed to Steam machines and made them in-house as a console competitor it would of had a better chance, but even Valve didn't seem to be very confident.

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I am pretty much done with our conversation since you dismiss every single reason I provide without actually replying to it.
Whatever floats your boat, we have no choice but to agree to disagree.
If you read my posts, you would see that not only once I mentioned how Windows 10 should be distributed. Including the five points in my last little wall of text, which I will not bother clarifying anymore than that.

I hardly count what you wrote as an answer to delivering Windows 10 to the masses, you just moaned about the things they are going to be doing, and your solutions are more along the lines of what they are doing currently.

Sometimes giving people to much choice is a bad thing, giving some granny the choice of doing this or that can be intimidating, i know mine is like that, she always feels like she'll break something..

I hope Microsoft just tells her what to do and makes the choices for her, it will save me the headache. tongue.gif

Not to mention by the time this all happens, people like us on OCN would of had the better part of a year to do it the way we want.
Edited by GorillaSceptre - 10/30/15 at 12:30pm
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I don't use Apple devices or locked Android devices for that exact reason. At least with windows you can still uninstall the updates and disable them from reinstalling, but only if you know how. I see a lot of senor citizen visits in my near future reinstalling Windows 7 or fixing things that don't work in 10.

 

What you do, and what I do, is no different to users pushing their own security policies or proactively blocking certain updates.

 

But again, and looking at the grand scheme of things on a regular user scenario - why is it suddenly a problem when Android, iOS, Mac OS and WP have been doing it for years?

   
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I'm not sure if you and facePlanted are seriously trying to argue Windows vs Linux driver support.. You're welcome to try, but you'll lose that argument every time.

True sadsmiley.gif for example some chipsets similar to your sound card are not supported: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus
did it work for you ?
I mean when you tried few distros, was audio ok ?

I have a Formula VI mobo and the audio chipset works flawlessly, using s/pdif. I'm very happy with PulseAudio.
I also have two Behringer BCR2000 and they work plug&play.

Today I had some time and found a place for my G27 wheel.
I've plugged the device, syslog wrote a bunch of stuff, the wheel did the usual full left-right turn.
I've opened iRacing (which runs officially on Linux Debian with wine), clicked setup and found with pleasing suprise that it got detected.
I've slowly configured all the buttons, included side gears behind the wheel and the stick shift, calibrated the wheel and the pedals.
Game runs at locked 106 fps (almost maxed), no input lag, can't tell the difference from Windows, also same pressure and force feedback.
Very very happy.
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