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I think all in all the Qnix and X-Star is a good deal for the cost of it. I'm going with that.

The Qnix and X-star also i believe are older and outdated IPS/PLS panels that have PWM which just means they have a flickering backlight which you may or may not notice, but your eyes would still thank you for having a flicker free backlight. If you want 1080p IPS, the absolute best monitor for that is the HP 25xw

Here is a link to the review: of the 25" and 27" variants http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/15935-hp-27cw-hp-25xw-review-almost-glossy-overclock-able-1080p-6-bit-frc-lg-ah-ips.html#post1402101

If you are set on a 1440p overclockable korean monitor then the newer Crossover 2795 QHD is the one you want.
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I was now aware of the Crossover 2795. The previous Crossover model was easily bested by the Qnix/X-Star, but this new one does look pretty good aside from what seems like an even more mild AG coating*. Seems to overclock almost as well, has a better stand (qnix/x-star stand is a joke. Replaced mine with an ergotron) and while I don't personally have any issue with PWM, it could be nice to be PWM free for a few users. I'd definitely consider it as long as pricing and availability isn't significantly worse.

I wouldn't buy a 1080 screen in 2015 unless your only priority is gaming, in which case you shouldn't be looking at IPS/PLS/VA at all. TN still rules the gaming world, and the only thing to usurp it will be when OLED panels become viable for the mainstream market.



*I seriously do not understand everyone's obsession with using their computers in pitch black rooms, which is the only useable way to use a glossy/mostly glossy screen without massive glare giving you more eyestrain and degrading the picture quality way worse than even the most aggressive AG coating/film ever could. Even my X-Star is hard to use during the day time, or even if I'm wearing a brightly colored shirt (which reflects light back from the monitor, and causes me to see myself in the screen).
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The Crossover 2795 would be a better fit in that case since it's matte. My room has a good amount of natural lighting to the point that gaming on a glossy screen would be irritating after a little.
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The Crossover 2795 would be a better fit in that case since it's matte. My room has a good amount of natural lighting to the point that gaming on a glossy screen would be irritating after a little.

The 2795 is reported to have a very mild AG layer. It is matte, but just barely. many people actually have been calling it "semi-glossy".

The X-Star / Qnix come in both true glossy and light matte. Personally mine is matte I probably should have mentioned that in my last post, for clarity.

I really don't like the modern trend of really super lightweight coating that are barely matte. They don't do anything well, and instead play two roles poorly. I wish monitor manufacturers would stick to true matte and true gloss (and offer both on all their models).
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The 2795 is reported to have a very mild AG layer. It is matte, but just barely. many people actually have been calling it "semi-glossy".

The X-Star / Qnix come in both true glossy and light matte. Personally mine is matte I probably should have mentioned that in my last post, for clarity.

I really don't like the modern trend of really super lightweight coating that are barely matte. They don't do anything well, and instead play two roles poorly. I wish monitor manufacturers would stick to true matte and true gloss (and offer both on all their models).

It's hard to differentiate the glossy and matte for the X-Star / Qnix. I had enough time understanding the difference between the models with one DVI port and more.
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It's hard to differentiate the glossy and matte for the X-Star / Qnix. I had enough time understanding the difference between the models with one DVI port and more.

Yeah it can get confusing with all of the variations on the same panel that all look and are named the same. Especially when you are at the mercy of google translate and ebay sellers to get info as opposed to an actual company website or something.

Basically, the X-Star and Qnix are the exact same things just with different names, so think of that part interchangeably.

All models of their monitor come in glossy and matte. All you need to know is that glossy will look better in perfect conditions, but in most real-world conditions it will have a lot of glare and reflections, so unless you already know for certain that you want glossy, you probably want matte.

It gets trickier with the TRUE-10 models, models with different inputs, models with built in scalers, etc. Basically for general PC use and gaming, you want one of the original 8 bit ones with only DVI input and no scaler. This will give you the best performance and lowest cost.

If you have a workstation GPU (Nvidia Quadro or Radeon Fire Pro) with 10 bit output and plan on doing a lot of really color sensitive work, then you want the TRUE-10. You will get better colors (but only if you have a 10bit card. Gaming cards like a GTX 980 or whatever do not support this, so you would get no benefit on them) but at a higher price and with slower gaming performance.

If you are trying to use it on a laptop or game console or something, you need a model with a built in scaler. These are the most universally compatible models that are similar to your normal ACER, DELL, ASUS, Samsung, etc. They will work on anything, but don't really do anything particularly well.
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The Crossover 2795 would be a better fit in that case since it's matte. My room has a good amount of natural lighting to the point that gaming on a glossy screen would be irritating after a little.

Only buy a Qnix/X-Star if you want to support a shady company which sells the same displays with multiple panels with varying performance and PWM lottery. The Crossover 2795 QHD is much better than 5/6 of the known Qnix/X-Star PLS variations, and the only version of the Qnix/X-Star which is comparable is extremely rare.

Crossover 2795 QHD Thread with more information.

If you really want a glossy monitor buy an HP 25-27 CW or XW. The panels used in these is better than 99% of displays available, and can overclock to 75hz. I'm not allowed to link to my review here, but I'm sure you can use Google smile.gif
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All you need to know is that glossy will look better in perfect conditions, but in most real-world conditions it will have a lot of glare and reflections, so unless you already know for certain that you want glossy, you probably want matte.

The glossy L02 panels suffer from black crush and an obvious blue or red tint while the 07 panels only come with PWM and have less vibrant and accurate colours than both of the known matte versions.
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If you have a workstation GPU (Nvidia Quadro or Radeon Fire Pro) with 10 bit output and plan on doing a lot of really color sensitive work, then you want the TRUE-10. You will get better colors (but only if you have a 10bit card. Gaming cards like a GTX 980 or whatever do not support this, so you would get no benefit on them) but at a higher price and with slower gaming performance.

The True uses a standard gamut 8 Bit +FRC AHVA panel which offers zero advantages over a regular 8 bit panel, and the Adobe DP Qnix uses a wide gamut panel which lacks an sRGB mode which prevents it from being able to display colours properly (without vast red and green over-saturation) unless used with work related programs which support colour management.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 11/4/15 at 1:14am
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Hm, sorry for jumping in your topic, but i'm also in search for monitor. So this Crossover 2795 is good? Like very good for graphic work and gaming in one? My original plan is to buy PG279Q or new Acer for IPS and something from Benq for competitive gaming. But since PG279Q failed (at least in my eyes for now) i don't see the point of taking it over something cheaper.
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