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Hello there! I just bought a new PC, in part to become better and more familiar with overclocking. I got my i7-6700K to a stable and cool 4.6GHz, and she runs beautifully. My problem arose when I tried to dive into memory overclocking with my MSI Z170A GAMING PRO mobo. I've had no luck, and MSI support just confused me more. I was told first to update BIOS, but then not to, because a BIOS update might "break my motherboard", and that my CPU overclock could be messing with my XMP profile headscratch.gif . The guy seemed to keep second guessing himself, so I figured it would be better to come to the experts here. I have 16GB of Corsair Vengeance LPX 2800Mhz RAM (15-15-15-36) @ 1.2v , but it is only running at 2133Mhz. When the XMP profile is enabled I get about 10 minutes maximum before a BSOD, and only can make it until the second pass of "Intelburnin" before a stability error. XMP off and everything returns to normal. I've read other threads, but I want to get specific help for my issue before I go ahead and mess with settings and stuff. I've posted a pastebin link with my CPU-Z profile info, so basically any info you guys need should be there, but if not just let me know what you need. Thanks in advance to anyone who helps an overclocker in training out thumb.gif.




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Edited by r1ckyg3 - 10/30/15 at 11:55am
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How did you OC'ed the CPU? Just increase the multiplier. Also, it would be better if you first set the XMP and then try to OC the CPU.
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I bought it from cyberpower pc. It actually was an option for them to overclock it since I bought the K series cpu. They did it right from the bios. I read up on overclocking and learned what they did and what it ment, but this ram isn't working with me at all. What do you mean just increase the multiplier, and should I go back to default bios settings and do the xmp first before doing any cpu over clocks like you said, or is there any other options I can try first? Freezing is indicative of voltage or wrong speed settings correct?
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It means that the OC is unstable. 1st thing you should do is return your CPU to stock clocks. Then set up your XMP to the desired one. After that go back to the CPU. By multiplier i mean the following : Your CPU runs at some speed (lets say 200Mhz), and you have a multiplier (stepping) that you can tune and increase the total CPU frequency - just set it to 2-3 steps higher than the default one (for ~400-600Mhz OC) and try again. Increase the stepping by 1 (or 0.5 if possible) and when you can't boot anymore your PC, return 1 or 2 lower. Then try booting into OS and run Prime95 for 15 mins. If fails - lower a bit more and repeat again.
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It means that the OC is unstable. 1st thing you should do is return your CPU to stock clocks. Then set up your XMP to the desired one. After that go back to the CPU. By multiplier i mean the following : Your CPU runs at some speed (lets say 200Mhz), and you have a multiplier (stepping) that you can tune and increase the total CPU frequency - just set it to 2-3 steps higher than the default one (for ~400-600Mhz OC) and try again. Increase the stepping by 1 (or 0.5 if possible) and when you can't boot anymore your PC, return 1 or 2 lower. Then try booting into OS and run Prime95 for 15 mins. If fails - lower a bit more and repeat again.

Thanks for the explanation. Is it a common thing for the cpu overclock to effect xmp? I've heard my cpu getting up to 4.8 with voltages and Temps on the lower side. Would you mind a brief explanation on how cpu overclock would affect xmp? I will try what you said about the defaults when I get home and let you know how goes.
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Thanks for the explanation. Is it a common thing for the cpu overclock to effect xmp? I've heard my cpu getting up to 4.8 with voltages and Temps on the lower side. Would you mind a brief explanation on how cpu overclock would affect xmp? I will try what you said about the defaults when I get home and let you know how goes.
Yes, CPU OC can affect RAM OC. I think that the XMP you are setting is an OC one for your motherboard - your motherboard supports 2133 Mhz RAM without being considered an OC. If you set the XMP to 2800, you are overclocking the RAM. In this case, just OC the RAM first and then the CPU. I am not really knowledgeable how the RAM OC happens with XMP, so you may wait for someone else to drop some more information.
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So after a BIOS update and back to default settings, my XMP is now stable at 2800. I guess this means that I won't be able to OC my CPU back to 4.6 anymore? Whats the best course of action, just slowly OC the CPU little by little until I get to where its unstable and then back off it?
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So after a BIOS update and back to default settings, my XMP is now stable at 2800. I guess this means that I won't be able to OC my CPU back to 4.6 anymore? Whats the best course of action, just slowly OC the CPU little by little until I get to where its unstable and then back off it?
Yes, do it like that. If you can save a screenshot of what your CPU BIOS options are , it will be good.
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Yes, do it like that. If you can save a screenshot of what your CPU BIOS options are , it will be good.

Thanks for your help. I'm going to mess around a little with it now. It still boggles me though that there is no way to have high CPU overclocks plus use your XMP profile too. You'd think how far things have come with custom BIOs and stuff it would be fairly easy!
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Perhaps the OC on your CPU increased the base clock a bit too, like stock 100 and they bumped it to 105 and then on top of that did a multiplier to get 4.6Ghz.

If the base clock was upped, then it will also affect the memory so once you enabled XMP it was too much for it to handle. Typically the best approach is to only change multipliers and voltages unless you are more experienced to tweak deeper to inch out every tiny bit (likely only noticed in benchmarks).
Plus i believe changing the base clock has a greater chance of reducing the life of the CPU and possibly mobo, ram, and anything else it affects. A stable OC with multiplier and no insane voltages only shouldn't reduce the life noticeably if at all.
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