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I have noticed in alot of games you can tell AMD has the better image quality many others have noticed this also and usually it is on Nvidia gameworks titles this kind of throws a redflag as of why this is star wars battlefront there was a few of the Fury / fury X / 390x vs GTX 980 TI and well the image quality was better on the AMD cards I have noticed this alot maybe Nvidia are turning down image quality to get better performance I don't know but it seems this way.

I have noticed AMD cards to have a better image quality for past few gens than Nivida I do not know why even if run identical settings the AMD setups are crisper and more vibrant along with seem to have all around better color representation.

here is a good thread on just this http://www.overclock.net/t/1462291/amd-vs-nvidia-image-quality

Exactly! Many people tell me that I have excellent observation skill, I always know to notice counterfeits and original things, everything, and people only could talk to self that picture is same.
No picture is better on Radeon and before 10 years difference was even bigger. Many people suspect that NVIDIA on that way get more fps long ago. If you play on 1680x1050 off course your fps will be better than on 1920x1080. On high settings fps will be better than on Ultra high. On that way NVIDIA get status of smoother and better cards because more people look in fps and you need to used on Radeon some time and than to cross on NVIDIA to notice worse pictures. Or from NVIDIA to cross on some premium Radeon and there are very small number of such people.
I didn't notice better color represantation I even think better colors are on NVIDIA. But AMD definitely on AMD you can notice 10% more details on around 10% longer distance and same resolution look 10% higher on AMD. If someone want to talk to self that's not true OK. I have nothing against them. Their money they could buy what they want I only say 20-30% people if now remove GTX980Ti from computer and install R9-290X will notice better picture even in windows, maybe even before driver installation. I remember when NVIDIA default resolution without driver was 1280x1024 Radeon had 1920x1080 and before you install drivers. If someone don't want to pay Radeon could borrow from someone and try and if they think maybe is something little better I can say It's not maybe they notice that. You have bunch of Radeon users who used on Radeon and cross on NVIDIA they think something is wrong, install drivers 50 times, reinstall OS, games several times and think that picture is not good. They don't need to think ...that's true.

But like you see all brands make better models GeForce... Now If I want Radeon best I could buy is ASUS Fury X reference or ASUS R9-390X Strix... Off course I would wait ARES 4 but I could pay half of that card.
From other side I GeForce I could choose Matrix 980Ti, 980Ti Poseidon, 980Ti Strix or even ASUS TITAN X.
Radeon choice is poor compare to GeForce. ASUS GTX980Ti Matrix is probably about 20% maybe more stronger than Fury X. I mean she is 20% stronger than reference GTX980Ti than imagine how much is better than Fury X.
Edited by Vlada011 - 11/4/15 at 7:06pm
post #102 of 165
Do any of you really think AMD and Nvidia aren't cross checking each other constantly in the image department?

We've seen accusations and proof in the past from legit sources which caused it to be fixed.

When AMD themselves come out and provide proof of this then it's time to believe. This would be a far more damaging weapon than slamming Gameworks yet we've heard nothing.

The last set of videos that were "proof" were retracted by the user because he did find his settings were in error. Despite this and his admission of such, the videos were still being provided by others as proof.
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post #103 of 165
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

Do any of you really think AMD and Nvidia aren't cross checking each other constantly in the image department?

We've seen accusations and proof in the past from legit sources which caused it to be fixed.

When AMD themselves come out and provide proof of this then it's time to believe. This would be a far more damaging weapon than slamming Gameworks yet we've heard nothing.

The last set of videos that were "proof" were retracted by the user because he did find his settings were in error. Despite this and his admission of such, the videos were still being provided by others as proof.

Fact.
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post #104 of 165
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I have noticed AMD cards to have a better image quality for past few gens than Nivida I do not know why even if run identical settings the AMD setups are crisper and more vibrant along with seem to have all around better color representation.

ATI always had better image quality.
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post #105 of 165
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Originally Posted by vallonen View Post

ATI always had better image quality.

Don't tell them, they are blind obviously.
There are people who can't buy forged things because naturally have sense to recognize original only when they see once and other people who will never notice difference until someone show them.
Same as special kind of people is only capable to work on aroma selections for perfume and for other people never can't recognize some difference.
Image on Radeon is sharper and that is not visible only in games, that's visible in games menu, Windows even BIOS Post Screen.
Enough is only 100 people to maybe notice something like that and immediately every smart person will ask How so many people notice similar things if that is not true.
Because It's true.

Look ASUS R9-390X and compare with your NVIDIA you will see how much is picture sharper and cleaner and search later for same games on GeForce TITAN X and GTX980Ti....

https://youtu.be/wrMHX1kqwY8

Some people will rather convince yourself if NVIDIA is expensive than picture can't be worse and they believe.
NVIDIA always try to hide and delete information where people explain that picture is better on ATI and AMD.
Answer is probably and deep in graphic processor design, they make graphics on completely different way and we know what is NVIDIA ready to do only to benchmark show better fps. But now when lot of ex Radeon customers who used years on clean Radeon picture start to buy GeForce last years with inferior pictures they can't hide any more like that. And we must be fair NVIDIA improve image quality special after GTX580. Before difference was much bigger.

AMD have prove for that and NVIDIA is always loudest and try to delete posts of people who notice that.
But it's not possible to everyone notice difference between high and ultra high quality example.
Difference is 5-10% but enough to NVIDIA offer smoother fps because less details on screen.
And NVIDIA have other advantages as more realistic effects and AMD is not great in advertising and presentation of weak side of their competitor.
I can bet that 10-20% people notice same among NVIDIA customers and can't say nothing they pretend like that's not true or they see something but they are not sure.
Edited by Vlada011 - 11/5/15 at 6:40pm
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Claims ATI produces better image quality...


...backs it up with compressed youtube video.
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I've tried to hang with AMD as I do like the cards (when they work) but driver support at least in my experience has been subpar to the point that I don't know if I will give them another shot. It's sad really redface.gif. Thank God for AMD's sake that Omega drivers come out every once in a while.
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post #108 of 165
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Originally Posted by Vlada011 View Post

Don't tell them, they are blind obviously.
There are people who can't buy forged things because naturally have sense to recognize original only when they see once and other people who will never notice difference until someone show them.
Same as special kind of people is only capable to work on aroma selections for perfume and for other people never can't recognize some difference.
Image on Radeon is sharper and that is not visible only in games, that's visible in games menu, Windows even BIOS Post Screen.
Enough is only 100 people to maybe notice something like that and immediately every smart person will ask How so many people notice similar things if that is not true.
Because It's true.

Look ASUS R9-390X and compare with your NVIDIA you will see how much is picture sharper and cleaner and search later for same games on GeForce TITAN X and GTX980Ti....

https://youtu.be/wrMHX1kqwY8

Some people will rather convince yourself if NVIDIA is expensive than picture can't be worse and they believe.
NVIDIA always try to hide and delete information where people explain that picture is better on ATI and AMD.
Answer is probably and deep in graphic processor design, they make graphics on completely different way and we know what is NVIDIA ready to do only to benchmark show better fps. But now when lot of ex Radeon customers who used years on clean Radeon picture start to buy GeForce last years with inferior pictures they can't hide any more like that. And we must be fair NVIDIA improve image quality special after GTX580. Before difference was much bigger.

AMD have prove for that and NVIDIA is always loudest and try to delete posts of people who notice that.
But it's not possible to everyone notice difference between high and ultra high quality example.
Difference is 5-10% but enough to NVIDIA offer smoother fps because less details on screen.
And NVIDIA have other advantages as more realistic effects and AMD is not great in advertising and presentation of weak side of their competitor.
I can bet that 10-20% people notice same among NVIDIA customers and can't say nothing they pretend like that's not true or they see something but they are not sure.

LOL. Do you have real proof of what you speak besides a YouTube video?
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post #109 of 165
I'd say the 980 Ti is still superior, with overclocking.

However, I know it's by a much more narrow margin than people would like to believe. NV's "boost" overclocks are very superficial. It'll get you higher frames when frames are high, but won't do much for you otherwise. I'm sure Maxwell is no exception; we all saw the reviews.

If you're going to look at overclocked results, you're going to want to look at minimums. Ideally, you'll want to look at a graphic of FPS over a timeline, to see if you're consistently getting higher frames. Boost gets you the most extra frames when you really don't need them, and I'm sorry, but that makes me see it as litte more than a benchmark bolsterer. I won't take NV's "performance gains" from overclocking at face value anymore; not since boost showed up.
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Yup, i'd choose the Ti if i could right now.

But down the road it may be the same situation as the 290x vs 780 Ti. Unfortunately it's always to little to late with AMD, personally i prefer AMD as they've always delivered what i want, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why Nvidia wrecks them in sales.

The new Radeon Software shows that they may of finally got a clue.. rolleyes.gif
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