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I love both company's. I say if you disregard clocks, and just play the damn games then the Fury X/ 980ti should be indistinguishable without a monitoring program.

Thus all used to be common knowledge the problem is in most cases now you got gameworks and such or Nvidia sponsored game titles / engines along with proprietary graphics settings which as far as I know all of AMD specific graphics settings are open for Nvidia to use but Nvidia don't reciprocate. This makes things more biased against AMD across table and with AMD's 25% or so market share there isn't alot of fight AMD can do against all of it but again if you run unbiased games / engines you will notice AMD image quality is superior to Nvidia alot of it has to do with Nvidias color compression and texture remapping features from my understanding.
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They both have their pros and cons. I wouldn't go and say G-sync is hands down better.
Actually AMD QuadFire scales better than Nvidia Quad Sli, thanks to XDMA Crossfire. Most benchmarks reflect this given all 4 cards are actually used.

I didn't say it was "hands down better", I indicated it was superior and it is. I've tried both and found the g-sync array to be more consistent in performance. Mind you g-sync is more expensive overall so that is to be expected.
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PCLab tested TW3 on the newest patch in the new expansion, AMD runs 15.10 here
http://pclab.pl/art66374-10.html Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I guess for the AMD side a lot depends on the location they tested, look at this


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HBAO+ should be off. still nvidia tech that runs better on nvidia hardware. Hard to tell if ssao or hbao+ looks better
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if by runs better on geforce you mane it's nvidia biased then yes.

means it has nvidia code in there
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I didn't say it was "hands down better", I indicated it was superior and it is. I've tried both and found the g-sync array to be more consistent in performance. Mind you g-sync is more expensive overall so that is to be expected.

g-sync is not better. freesync is arguably better because it lacks the latency from the module, but the comparison between identical monitors using either tech should show very similar performance when freesync is on
Edited by semitope - 11/7/15 at 4:40pm
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Ah so you also have both setups and have tested them with matching games? Would love to see rig pics of both.
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Ah so you also have both setups and have tested them with matching games? Would love to see rig pics of both.

based on the tomshardware thing from what i remember. its only "inferior" when its not actually running. i.e depends on the monitor and its range.
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I'd love to know how an overclocked R9 290 & R9 290X holds up against an overclocked GTX 970 both with the latest drivers.

 

It's not the latest drivers, but I did this back in January:  http://www.overclock.net/t/1436497/official-amd-r9-290x-290-owners-club/34380_20#post_23458320

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You are aware that GTX 980Ti Lightning is an overclocked GTX 980Ti that is expensive as hell right? Thats why it is faster tongue.gif
Yes, the Fury X launch was not ideal, thats for sure. But man have AMD recovered. Availability on the market and yields are now ideal. Drivers are better than Nvidia. Rumors about Omega drivers lurking around in the corner bringing who knows what to the Fury X card. I hope they unlocked voltage and improved overclocking. Any additional performance gains will for sure make the Fury X card a no brainer vs GTX 980Ti.
To me Fury X is already a better buy right now though.

That's one heck of a jump. No brainer? You can get a 980Ti for $620 from Gigabyte with their Windforce cooler and a small factory OC (1102Mhz). This can likely be pushed farther with a few minutes of tweaking, even without touching voltage. Maybe not quite to the Lightning's ~1200Mhz clocks, but close. In many cases people get higher than 1200Mhz -- I've seen 1400Mhz on air, higher. Cheaper, no rebate to deal with, no pump issues, no having to mount a radiator... I fail to see how that makes any sense.
Edited by silent-circuit - 11/7/15 at 10:25pm
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HBAO+ should be off. still nvidia tech that runs better on nvidia hardware. Hard to tell if ssao or hbao+ looks better
means it has nvidia code in there
g-sync is not better. freesync is arguably better because it lacks the latency from the module, but the comparison between identical monitors using either tech should show very similar performance when freesync is on
I don't think people should turn off hbao+ on nvidia cards just to make it even for amd. you don't see people claiming aots should be done without async, quite the contrary, they demand more. if you compare $650 cards I think hbao+ should be on.
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I don't think people should turn off hbao+ on nvidia cards just to make it even for amd. you don't see people claiming aots should be done without async, quite the contrary, they demand more. if you compare $650 cards I think hbao+ should be on.
Actually, AOTS runs without Async Compute on nVidia cards...just because it completly sucks with it. Same should be with TW3 and HBAO.
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Actually, AOTS runs without Async Compute on nVidia cards...just because it completly sucks with it. Same should be with TW3 and HBAO.
yes but it doesn't reduce visual quality. Nvidia cards still do the post processing features in aots, just without the help of parelell compute. Turning off gw will reduce image quality. I'm all for having GW turned off on mid range cards to see which one, e.g. 390 or 970 will let you run 60fps without GW. But on $650 cards - most of GW should probably be enabled, I mean if you spend so much on a GPU you can expect it to run with most of them enabled. People who claim GW is a way of gaining the edge over AMD may be right, but why do they fail to see that most GW features have a very nice impact on visual quality (e.g. check out FC4 with HBAO+ and Enhanced godrays vs SSAO/SSBC and no Godrays, now tell me there's no difference)
Edited by Klocek001 - 11/8/15 at 2:47am
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