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Originally Posted by TK421 View Post

Is the mostfet a higher quality compared to ref 980ti/tx?

Why does the squares not need to be cooled?

The black squares are literally a piece of going through or around a piece of iron. They really aren't sensitive to temperatures.

The MOSFETs on the R9 Fury and Fury X are really really high end IR 6894 MOSFETs. Those are the same MOSFETs that are used in the EVGA E-power, the GTX 980 Ti Classified, GTX 980 Classified, GTX 780Ti Classified and K|NGP|N, GTX 780 Classified, GTX 680 Classified, R9 290X Lightning, R9 290X reference, R9 290 reference. All of those use the 6894 MOSFETs. This is their datasheet.
post #52 of 165
TPU changed from Windows 7 to Windows 10 with the new benchmarks, they also changed up their gaming suite by adding Mad Max & MGSV.

Perhaps the new driver model in Win10 accounts for a lot of that performance boost. We already know AMD has issues with DX11 in 7/8.
post #53 of 165
"Fury X as fast or faster."

[shows charts with aftermarket 980 Ti clearly 19-22% faster]


"But that's a Lightning."

[Guru3D's Lightning 980 Ti review show other, cheaper aftermarket 980 Tis almost every bit as fast at stock; additionally, TPU's own review shows said aftermarket models able to overclock just as high (or very close) as the Lightning, which itself still has a fair amount of headroom left:]
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


"But the Fury X still made gains"

[but if you look closely, you see the reference 980 Ti lost some ground versus the Titan X (potential variance in reference card throttling/boost speed) and notice that TPU removed Project Cars from their testing suite, which contributes to the Fury X's relative positioning.]



Conclusion: The OP's title and assertion are wrong. Reference 980 Tis at their low stock and throttling speeds are still pretty much matching the Fury X, but any aftermarket or overclocked model blows an OC Fury X out of the water for a marginal price increase or manual tweaking of like two sliders.

For instance:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1160257&gclid=COW7zu6R8MgCFQoSHwod-pIFeQ&is=REG&m=Y&Q=&A=details

The G1 980 Ti is almost as aggressively clocked as the Lightning is and $669 there, which is about ~10% more than the cheapest Fury X, yet easily beats it by 15-20% at stock or when both are overclocked, has 50% more VRAM, has far superior DX11 CPU overhead management, and has the typical Nvidia-exclusive features. It's $20 more on Newegg, but there comes with a free game and a $20 rebate offer. Bang for buck wise, aftermarket 980 Tis are still the way to go in this price range. The MSI Gaming 980 Ti is similar in performance and also comes with a game, but is only $659 on Newegg:

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814127889


AMD haven't recovered anything; the Fury X still doesn't properly compete with Nvidia's cut-down GM200 (which is cheaper to manufacture); not in performance, price, model variety, overclocking, VRAM, driver efficiency, manufacturing cost, or vendor-exclusive features. Regardless of whether a person overclocks or not, aftermarket 980 Tis are the superior choice in every metric.

If a CLC is necessary for some reason, the Hybrid 980 Ti is now $725 on Newegg, is still superior to the Fury X in bang for buck (a bit less than 20% more money for ~20% more performance and the other 980 Ti benefits), and comes with a free game still.
Edited by Serandur - 11/1/15 at 1:38pm
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The black squares are literally a piece of going through or around a piece of iron. They really aren't sensitive to temperatures.

The MOSFETs on the R9 Fury and Fury X are really really high end IR 6894 MOSFETs. Those are the same MOSFETs that are used in the EVGA E-power, the GTX 980 Ti Classified, GTX 980 Classified, GTX 780Ti Classified and K|NGP|N, GTX 780 Classified, GTX 680 Classified, R9 290X Lightning, R9 290X reference, R9 290 reference. All of those use the 6894 MOSFETs. This is their datasheet.

Damn, didn't expect the mosfets to be this high up in the quality department.


Is there any benefits to cooling the squares though?
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Damn, didn't expect the mosfets to be this high up in the quality department.


Is there any benefits to cooling the squares though?

I guess you might drop the overall VRM temps a little but the only card I've seen that cools those is the R9 290(X) Windforce and that card has crap VRM temps because the heatsink is anemic.
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Good for red team!
post #57 of 165
Just as fast as reference. Non-reference 980 TI's are quite a bit ahead. Even out of the box with no manual OC.
post #58 of 165
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I guess you might drop the overall VRM temps a little but the only card I've seen that cools those is the R9 290(X) Windforce and that card has crap VRM temps because the heatsink is anemic.

can you give me a picture of the heatsink?

can't seem to find it anywhere
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GTX 980Ti at 1400MHz (Lightning) is 23% faster than stock Fury X in 1080p. Not 44%.

And who use a Fury X or 980Ti at 1080p? O_o

Fury X HAD issues with the pump resulting in whine but that have been fixed and resolved a looong time ago. Its a non existent issue now. The card is very quiet.

Plenty of people do to drive 120+fps.
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i'm mad that nvidia stopped showing kepler love so fast

it really sucks, i was hoping to sli it in the future when i first got it because i didn't have enough money straight off the bat for sli

but now people are saying don't even bother sli

i honestly truly believe they deliberately gimp cards via drivers so the masses purchase new ones, and their gameworks tactics are anti-consumer... i'm glad more and more people are coming to the realization that nvidia is anti-consumer
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