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Hello, I'm completely new to this sound card concept, especially Creative.

Got a secondhand SB Z recently and while it runs perfectly fine off MS default drivers on W7, you don't get to use the amplified headphone-out jack, or enjoy purportedly superior sound quality.

However, unlike the Audigy RX 7.1's I have in my other PC, Creative's default drivers for this card does not allow the installation of solely the device driver sans fluff like OpenAL and even the control panel.

With the SB Z you are forced to have the control panel icon linger around in your tray, and when you open it up after each reboot you realise that the Crystalizer settings have been brought back to some value at stock. Now this pisses me off because I don't need that Crystallizer crap as I do not listen to low quality sources and neither do I have low quality audio gear. In fact having the Crystalizer on makes my speakers unbearable, bringing on a very shrill resonance at around 3kHz.

I found out about PAX drivers online, and I got to the HH thread containing the latest PAX driver. However it seems to suggest that it has tweaks already pre-applied.
Some help here? How do I go about installing just the driver?

And no, going to Control Panel to remove the other components after first installing all the components, does not work on the SB Z.
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So, Creative's installer doesn't contain a Custom install option where you get to deselect everything that you don't want? May I see some screenshots of the installation process step-by-step? If you do decide to post some screenshots, please use the .PNG format and please use the Insert Image toolbar button here on OCN in the editor. (too many people these days are using Insert Attachment for some reason, and it's annoying)

 

Also, I would bet that you could get rid of what's starting up that you don't want using things like Services.msc or one of the autorun Registry entries, such as one of these:

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

 

So, check both Services.msc and these Registry keys.


Edited by TwoCables - 11/1/15 at 3:33pm
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So, Creative's installer doesn't contain a Custom install option where you get to deselect everything that you don't want? May I see some screenshots of the installation process step-by-step? If you do decide to post some screenshots, please use the .PNG format and please use the Insert Image toolbar button here on OCN in the editor. (too many people these days are using Insert Attachment for some reason, and it's annoying)

Also, I would bet that you could get rid of what's starting up that you don't want using things like Services.msc or one of the autorun Registry entries, such as one of these:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

So, check both Services.msc and these Registry keys.

Can't get any screenshots at the moment, I'm in camp. But I've already tried it twice, appalled at the lack of freedom choice. When you install, you're asked if you wish to install the thing and where, and it just carries on.
After a restart, digging at the control panel > programs & features > uninstall, just nets a 'do you want to uninstall?' and it removes the entire thing, driver and all.

With the Audigy RX7.1 it installed the entire thing along with crap like Creative Karaoke and EAX and whatnot. But you were allowed to uninstall those components separately, and when you tried to uninstall the 'Sound Blaster Audigy' program, it had a few checkboxes asking you exactly what was it you wanted removed.
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No, Ijthere's a Custom option. I did a YouTube search for "Sound Blaster Z installation", and this is the very first video in the results:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3MueVWbPzk (11:52, 1080p available)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3MueVWbPzk?t=8m32s

 

Ignore his dumb commentary (just mute it... heh), but you'll see right at 9:06 where you get the choice between "Complete" and "Custom". When you choose Custom, you'll see exactly what I was talking about.

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No, Ijthere's a Custom option. I did a YouTube search for "Sound Blaster Z installation", and this is the very first video in the results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3MueVWbPzk (11:52, 1080p available)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3MueVWbPzk?t=8m32s

Ignore his dumb commentary (just mute it... heh), but you'll see right at 9:06 where you get the choice between "Complete" and "Custom". When you choose Custom, you'll see exactly what I was talking about.

Was he using the disc or something downloaded online?
This might be crucial because I don't have the disc. I got mine secondhand, just the card in an antistatic bag.
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The CD. You never said that you don't have it. That's very different. From my experience with Creative's sound cards, you aren't going to find a single installer on Creative's website that is the same as what's on the CD. What they provide on their site assumes that you've already used the CD. So I'm sorry, but your complaints here aren't as valid as you thought because you don't have the CD. If you had the CD, then you would've had a positive experience.


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Let me get this straight though:

 

You downloaded SBZ_CD_L13_1_00_28.exe from Creative's website and you don't get a "Custom" option or anything at all like what you'd get from the CD? This would confuse me because the name of this file has "CD" in it, which would tell me that now they're putting the entire CD up in one installer.

 

Edit #1: I just downloaded it and ran it just to see what it's really called, and sure enough, it's just a 'web update'. So, now I'm not surprised that you experienced what you experienced; it's due to not having the CD (and using it). These web updates are just little updates.

 

Edit #2: My best recommendation to you right now is, ask here on OCN if someone can either give you the CD or an exact digital copy because without it, you'll never enjoy this card.

 

Edit #3: You might only need to ask for the CD or an exact digital copy here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1337761/official-creative-sound-blaster-z-zx-zxr-series-club


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