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You guys are doing a bang up job of pushing a good chunk of your user base towards other OS alternatives.

Lord please no, El Capitan and anything Mac related is just awful. I use a 27" Mac Pro at work I know lol
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I have both Facebook and Gmail, so I have no more complaints against Microsoft "only". thumb.gif

Heh, it's hard to get away from Google. I'm currently using DuckDuckGo for my search engine, MyKolab for email, PIA's DNS resolvers, but still need to ditch their mobile OS.
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Now you're comparing apples to zebras with such an absurd example that has nothing to do with privacy biggrin.gif Google and Facebook have been making small changes to their privacy policies over the years and they continue to get worse - it's no surprise Microsoft is following suit. Until better privacy laws are enacted in the USA, nothing will change for the better.

Both Google and Facebook don't violate your constitutional rights because both sources require submitted data...They don't exist on the privacy of your property.

I'll give you an example.

Google is in Kansas. (Their data centers are actually in like NY/ID/IN etc - Just giving an example) So, when you read your email you're both submitting and receiving data. Your privacy is therefor protected as much as Google can within the 4 corners of the law only, the NSA has their fist up...Well, you know where that's going.

Facebook is in Ca. CA happens to have 20-30 statutes that allow the surveillance/gathering of your data. Believe it or not, Facebook DOES actually deny claims without warrants and much to the FBI/NSA's chagrin, I'm sure, actually requires formal inquiries for data. Your privacy is therefor "protected" in a communistic state by which, Facebook does their best to protect you're data but, the NSA has their other fist up...Well, you know.

The issue here is location, location, location.

Regardless of any privacy change/Eula change/TOS alteration, the private data that is stored within the 4 corners of your home computer is guarded by law and if that law is violated, M$ opens themselves up to the lawsuit of the century...Which as Postal points out, is actually interesting because they'll have internally violated their own bi-laws in regards to investors...By the end of those 5/10 lawsuits, bet you Bill Gates will have to bend over to pick up those $100s again.
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Both Google and Facebook don't violate your constitutional rights because both sources require submitted data...They don't exist on the privacy of your property.

If you could provide a source for that, that'd be great. There are weak privacy laws at the federal and state levels so yes, location, location, location.
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Once again, as has been stated....

When you go to the lowest level of reporting, it just sends basic crash reports and other hardware/system related issues. Although it really doesn't matter, people are going to believe what they believe. I will continue to enjoy Windows 10.

 

+1

 

People act like this is an outrage, yet the only reason Microsoft is getting heat for it is because they are saying they collect data, what they collect and when.

 

The rest of the companies around the world do it as well, difference being they don't tell the users jack.

   
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Anyone who complains about Microsoft Windows 10 and yet uses Google Chrome, Google Youtube, Google+, Google Search, Google Maps, Google etc, etc, etc ... just cracks me the heck up.
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+1

People act like this is an outrage, yet the only reason Microsoft is getting heat for it is because they are saying they collect data, what they collect and when.

The rest of the companies around the world do it as well, difference being they don't tell the users jack.

a) It does collect data without user agreeing to that.
b) It's microsoft. If there's a mechanism to collect user data it will be exploited.
c) You can opt out from data collection or simply not use other companies products. You're not able to just move away from windows.
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Replace that with Apple anything, Blackberry anything, along with pretty much all professional software by default and it will be equally applicable.

   
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Anyone who complains about Microsoft Windows 10 and yet uses Google Chrome, Google Youtube, Google+, Google Search, Google Maps, Google etc, etc, etc ... just cracks me the heck up.

People that use the excuse that so-and-so company does it, so it's okay if Microsoft does it, crack me the heck up.
    
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Once again, as has been stated....

When you go to the lowest level of reporting, it just sends basic crash reports and other hardware/system related issues. Although it really doesn't matter, people are going to believe what they believe. I will continue to enjoy Windows 10.

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