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Originally Posted by xxdarkreap3rxx View Post

If you could provide a source for that, that'd be great. There are weak privacy laws at the federal and state levels so yes, location, location, location.

You literally just had an ISP tell you that all data outside of a private residence is public.

Therefor any data that is submitted, is also public so, there's actually no constitutional breach to privacy because it's no longer unlawful, it's in public.

Here, let me make this simple.

You have a picture of your foot on your PC.

I'm M$.

If I take that picture of your foot OFF of your PC, I'm violating the 4th amendment.

If you send the picture over Google to your sister because your foot looks like a Yeti's and I now "acquire" the picture of your foot, I'm not violating the 4th amendment because your data transaction was/is "public". - Also if you took that to court, the onus on you would be to prove their source...

In fact, if you emailed your sister a picture of your foot from a private server and it went to her Gmail, it's still considered public because you submitted data outside of the residence.
post #152 of 234
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

+1

People act like this is an outrage, yet the only reason Microsoft is getting heat for it is because they are saying they collect data, what they collect and when.

The rest of the companies around the world do it as well, difference being they don't tell the users jack.

There should still exist an additional option to not send anything.
post #153 of 234
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Originally Posted by r0llinlacs View Post

People that use the excuse that so-and-so company does it, so it's okay if Microsoft does it, crack me the heck up.

I'm using it as an excuse. I'm just simply pointing out that other companies snoop on people as much, if not more, than Microsoft. So unless they are going to never use Google anything, to say "I won't upgrade to Windows 10" is hypocritical as sin.
post #154 of 234
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

I'm using it as an excuse. I'm just simply pointing out that other companies snoop on people as much, if not more, than Microsoft. So unless they are going to never use Google anything, to say "I won't upgrade to Windows 10" is hypocritical as sin.

So is posting on OCN all considering.
post #155 of 234
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Originally Posted by Masked View Post

You literally just had an ISP tell you that all data outside of a private residence is public.

Therefor any data that is submitted, is also public so, there's actually no constitutional breach to privacy because it's no longer unlawful, it's in public.

Here, let me make this simple.

You have a picture of your foot on your PC.

I'm M$.

If I take that picture of your foot OFF of your PC, I'm violating the 4th amendment.

If you send the picture over Google to your sister because your foot looks like a Yeti's and I now "acquire" the picture of your foot, I'm not violating the 4th amendment because your data transaction was/is "public". - Also if you took that to court, the onus on you would be to prove their source...

In fact, if you emailed your sister a picture of your foot from a private server and it went to her Gmail, it's still considered public because you submitted data outside of the residence.

Microsoft isn't doing anything of the sort. Again with the "apples to zebras". Have no fear though, the picture of your foot is backed up to OneDrive thumb.gif
post #156 of 234
Comparing a search engine and an operating system is just brilliant.
post #157 of 234
Until I hear someone being affected negatively somehow by Microsoft spying, I could give 2 craps.
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post #158 of 234
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a) It does collect data without user agreeing to that.
b) It's microsoft. If there's a mechanism to collect user data it will be exploited.
c) You can opt out from data collection or simply not use other companies products. You're not able to just move away from windows.

 

1) It only collects data if the user agrees to the ToS, which guess what, you're ran through the moment you decide to install Windows 10. If you agree to installing Windows 10 you agree to the ToS, which in turn means you agree to the data collection.

 

2) Source for that?

 

3) You can choose to not use Windows. Linux exists for a reason. Your software only runs on Windows? Damn shame.

   
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Once again, as has been stated....

When you go to the lowest level of reporting, it just sends basic crash reports and other hardware/system related issues. Although it really doesn't matter, people are going to believe what they believe. I will continue to enjoy Windows 10.

QFT.
There is no convincing the paranoid of anything to the contrary.
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I still don't understand why they can't put the option to turn it off somewhere deep in the options menu. This means regular users probably can't find it and tech savvy people who don't want it can turn it off.
    
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