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Originally Posted by BSLSK05 View Post

Honestly, if windows 10 gave me the option to control my system the way I see fit, I would have upgraded long ago.

However:
1. I cannot install my sound card driver because it interferes with my dual NIC's (it won't assign subsystem assets, even though windows 8.1 has no problem with it)
2. Driver update and AMD Catalyst fight over who has the newest driver and causes my settings to vanish
3. I cannot control what Microsoft has access to on MY SYSTEM
4. I cannot pre-screen updates to make sure they aren't introducing massive vulnerabilities or device breaking changes
5. I did not agree, and will not agree to windows as a service. I will gladly pay for a complete version that gives me ADMIN rights

Until all of that is addressed, I am staying with 8.1.

Can't speak for some of those but....but I'll give it a shot.
#1 there is probably a fix for it somewhere...do I know of one...no frown.gif
#2 you can turn of auto updates for drivers and never have that problem again. Gotta go into advanced system settings. Control Panel>System>Advanced System Settings>Hardware tab> Device Installation Settings>Select "No, let me choose what to do".> Select "Never install driver software from Windows Update."
#3 You can turn A LOT of stuff off...everything...no. There is actually a good bit of info out there on turning stuff off and what MS does...just takes some searching....it does suck but I personally don't have anything I am worried about them getting. Weather you like it or not the majority of everyone's information is already out there due to the massive number of hacks against big companies and health care. Not to mention our data being sold by companies for advertising.
#4 Not in the same way you could in previous versions but you can select Defer Updates under advanced update settings. This will keep the newest updates from being installed automatically so you can wait and see if they cause issues. You can also uninstall updates from the "View your update history".
#5 You always have "admin" rights to your system...just depends how dirty you wanna get changing things...and weather or not you want to go against the ULA. The best way to speak out against something you don't like it so not use it and switch to the competition (many flavors of linux/unix or Mac OS).
Edited by NBrock - 11/3/15 at 5:25am
post #72 of 234
So this thread needs "Do not compare web services behavior to how your OS behaves" too. mad.gif

I just wish by the time dx12 becomes the norm, Linux gaming becomes a real thing and bites MS in the you know where.
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Crash data isn't PII.

Get a grip. if you're seriously concerned and against this, dig into it and find example of PII being sent down the wire.
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i am in it i do server management believe me you dont want that pain you will be found and you will pay there are things in place because ceos are paranoid they are getting screwed fed laws apply to servers not state means instant club fed membership so no no one who access servers is that dumb for a few hundred thousand then a few million in penalties and damage.

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name="[T]yphoon" url="/t/1579074/forbes-microsoft-admits-windows-10-automatic-spying-cannot-be-stopped/60#post_24566972"]
what abot the people that maintain the servers and ppl that have access to it?

They have a normal salary, so they can pretty much sell your info to 3rd parties[/quote]
post #75 of 234
I'm just waiting to see how long it takes for someone to develop some malicious code that changes all the users windows telemetry server addresses to their own servers and profits from M$ data mining.

While M$ may only be doing this to "improve" there product, there must be black hats out there trying to use this situation to their advantage
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Once again, as has been stated....

When you go to the lowest level of reporting, it just sends basic crash reports and other hardware/system related issues. Although it really doesn't matter, people are going to believe what they believe. I will continue to enjoy Windows 10.

LOL.

I love how everyone skipped over this.

Postal is absolutely right. thumb.gif

At this point, they can't take more data because the PC exists within the 4 corners of your private residence...It's actually a 4th amendment violation to take any other information.

What do I mean by a 4th amendment violation?

Glad you asked.

Since you own the property that the PC sits on and your signal could theoretically go stagnant while continuing to operate, it is a breach to "sieze" more data than actually necessary, even though M$ is not a legal authority, it doesn't change the fact that it is UNLAWFUL.

That being said, until that happens and it more than likely will NEVER happen because M$ isn't that stupid, I'm with Postal.
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LOL.

I love how everyone skipped over this.

Postal is absolutely right. thumb.gif

At this point, they can't take more data because the PC exists within the 4 corners of your private residence...It's actually a 4th amendment violation to take any other information.

What do I mean by a 4th amendment violation?

Glad you asked.

Since you own the property that the PC sits on and your signal could theoretically go stagnant while continuing to operate, it is a breach to "sieze" more data than actually necessary, even though M$ is not a legal authority, it doesn't change the fact that it is UNLAWFUL.

That being said, until that happens and it more than likely will NEVER happen because M$ isn't that stupid, I'm with Postal.

MS denied the US government had back doors in all their OS until they couldn't deny it any longer. They can claim all they want but unless they can somehow prove 100% they aren't spying on us MSpy are doing it and handing all that data to whoever demands it.
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MS denied the US government had back doors in all their OS until they couldn't deny it any longer. They can claim all they want but unless they can somehow prove 100% they aren't spying on us MSpy are doing it and handing all that data to whoever demands it.

So what choice do we have?
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I am an every day user at home. It has not upgraded for me yet. I see the popups every time I use the OS, but I ignore it.

Did you read the article? It talks about how it's annoying now but you pretty much will not be able to stop it from updating...
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MS denied the US government had back doors in all their OS until they couldn't deny it any longer. They can claim all they want but unless they can somehow prove 100% they aren't spying on us MSpy are doing it and handing all that data to whoever demands it.

"handing over the data to WHOEVER demands it" is a little different than....when the NSA knocks....good luck trying NOT to comply.

So you thought MS would come out back in 2007 and pull and Edward Snoden??


Even if you support Edward Snodens choice, you cannot expect a multi-billion dollar company to do anything socially/business suicidal.
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