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UPDATE - The choice is between Yamaha RX-V679 vs Pioneer Elite® VSX-90

A while back my 7.1 surround sound system broke .... Only the center channel works now the rest don't produce anything ... So the bass speaker is directly connected to the AMP which also connects to the DVD player (its all one system)

So I'm left with.

  • 4 corner speakers
  • 2 Front speakers
  • 1 Center speakers
  • Broker amp which integrates with the media player and bass speaker



The set up I want to get will be something like this .
No please pleaseeeeeeeee dont mock the paint ! its pro ... nah its something wacked up with some lack of time haha but should be easy enough to understand




Index
  • Blue squares - Corner speakers
  • Small Blue squares - Built in speakers

The rest is labeled but the Device topology will be like this .





I need an amp that's will work best with my motherboard being optical of 7.1 that will be the core of the audio system . I'll be getting the google audio cast device which when needed will be plugged into the AUX jack of the AMP . Which means its properly best to use optical from the PC ? the Google audio cast can use optical with an AUX-optic converter cable.

Anyone got any recommendation on the Amp/stereo or if I should just buy a whole new sound system ? No need but new house new stuff ....
Edited by kaistledine - 11/30/15 at 5:55am
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Any ideas for a good AMP that would work ?
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http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv671bl/yamaha-rx-v671-7.1-channel-network-av-receiver/1.html

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Also Optical can not even give you 5.1.


You Should be using HDMI period. Only way you are going to get 5.1+ PCM from a PC. Optical can only do Stereo in PCM (lossless)



Also what speakers do you have?

If they are from a HTIB setup, they may have a low ohm rating.
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Optical can do 5.1 but I choose to run 2.1 PCM on my PC. Tiny speakers with a low impedance will work work with a good receiver.
    
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http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv671bl/yamaha-rx-v671-7.1-channel-network-av-receiver/1.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv673bl/yamaha-rx-v673-7.2-channel-network-av-receiver-airplay/1.html


Also Optical can not even give you 5.1.


You Should be using HDMI period. Only way you are going to get 5.1+ PCM from a PC. Optical can only do Stereo in PCM (lossless)



Also what speakers do you have?

If they are from a HTIB setup, they may have a low ohm rating.

Nice choices .

Ill have to check when im home so ill get back to you about that one .

Issue is m Graphics card only has 1 HDMI port and its a little flakey ... Ill be using DP to HDMI for the TV and DP to DP for the Monitor
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Optical can do 5.1 but I choose to run 2.1 PCM on my PC. Tiny speakers with a low impedance will work work with a good receiver.

Thanks , yeah Ill have to check the speakers for when I get back
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does you sound card have the analog jacks on it? Instead of using hdmi or optical link?



This way you can just plug into a receiver and let your soundcard do the processing.
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Nice choices .

Ill have to check when im home so ill get back to you about that one .

Issue is m Graphics card only has 1 HDMI port and its a little flakey ... Ill be using DP to HDMI for the TV and DP to DP for the Monitor

Well you can put the receiver in between the PC and TV hdmi output. Else you can try using that other HDMI port.


Optical can do 5.1, but it will be lossy. But you will only get 5.1 with DD or DTS, so if you want your games to get 5.1 via this method. You will need a soundcard that can do DD Live or DTS Connect. That way you are encoding the 5.1 signal from windows into a DD or DTS feed. As PC games do not have DD or DTS. Movies and TV shows are in DD/DTS format though, as long as you have the correct version.



Otherwise you would need to bump up to a unit like this to get Analog Multi-Channel Inputs

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa2000bl/yamaha-rx-a2000-7.2-network-aventage-av-receiver/1.html

That is what I use for my Setup, feeding it from my Creative Z Soundcard. Gives me 4.1 for my PC without a problem, no need for Optical or anything that my degrade my sound quality. I have a old high end Yamaha, So no HDMI for me. Otherwise I would use HDMI.



Also 7.1 for a PC is really pointless (not going to get anything out of it gaming wise in a smaller room). If I was you, I would use the zone 2 function. In my Office I use the Zone 2 from my receiver to power the speakers for my Office TV. As TV speakers totally suck, on pretty much all TV's these days. Has independent volume control, so you can program your TV's universal remote to control the zone 2's volume. Which is Great, as you can have your PC's speaker system doing one thing. And you TV's doing another, all being powered by the same amp. Zone 2 will use the last two channels of the receiver, so pretty much making it a 5.1 unit and a 2.0 unit at the same time. Else you can output via the pre-outs to another amp and use the main receiver as a source/volume control(pre-amp). I think this would be the best way to go about your setup. And if you can't make HDMI work, just pick up a sound card that supports DD-Live/DTS Connect. Or get the expensive Yamaha Amp with Multi-channel inputs (or get a used old version that has them)

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does you sound card have the analog jacks on it? Instead of using hdmi or optical link?



This way you can just plug into a receiver and let your soundcard do the processing.

He will only be able to get stereo via this method, unless he has a receiver with multi-channel inputs.
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He will only be able to get stereo via this method, unless he has a receiver with multi-channel inputs.

pretty much any good receiver has this.

Optical can produce 5.1, but like you said no games support DTS or DD
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pretty much any good receiver has this.

Optical can produce 5.1, but like you said no games support DTS or DD

DD-Live or DTS Connect will convert the 5.1 from windows into a DD or DTS stream for the receiver to pick up.


Only High end Receiver's these days have them. Like that Yamaha Advantage receiver I posted. Otherwise it was a common feature on old receivers before HDMI became available. Can pick up high end receivers that are about a decade old for around $100, and they have high quality amps. That is what I did, my HTR-5790 is top notch. 110watts with 0.04% THD is pretty good. I have 6ohm Elac B6 speakers, so the power level is a bit higher. Greanted I will never see that much when I am pushing my Zone 2 and 4.1 setup at the same time. But when I'm listening to music, it is all stereo and I don't have the TV on. So I have no problem getting all/most of that power. Having a large transformer helps, but they can only get so large.
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3x 640 WD blacks Raid 0 Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 512GB SSD Sandisk 1TB SSD Samsung 470 Series 128GB SSD 
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XSPC Raystorm Windows 10 64bit Microboard m340clz 100hz 3440x1440 Corsair K70 
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TX850 HAF922 Logitech G502 Creative Sound Blaster Z  
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Elac B6 & Dayton Audio SUB-800 Yamaha HTR-5790 Audio Technica ATH-A700 headphones 
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Q9550 @ 4GHZ Gigabyte EP45 UD3P GTX470 4GB OCZ Reaper 1150mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital Blue 500gb OCZ Vertex 2 60GB LG Bluray Corsair H50 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Home Premium  Logitech K400 Corsair CX500 nMEDIAPC 6000B 
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Yamaha HTR-5063 PS3 80GB BC PS3 with 250GB hard drive. Polk Audio Monitor 60s Bi-AMP Front Polk Audio Monitor 30s Rear 
OtherOther
Polk Audio CS1 Center Polk Audio PSW10 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon Harpertown 3.6ghz Asus P5Q SE/R HD7770 4GB DDR2 800mhz Corsair 
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5TB Toshiba 5TB Toshiba 5TB Toshiba 2TB Hitachi 
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2TB Seagate 2TB Western Digital 1TB Hitachi Windows Home Server 2011 
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Corsair CX500 
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