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Driver support for Pascal already now could be because they are still on target for Q1.... thumb.gif

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Time to revive this thread. My info says big Pascal has taped out, and is on TSMC 16nm (Unknown if this is FF or FF+, though I suspect it is FF+). Target release date is Q1'16. This is a change from Kepler and Maxwell where the smallest chip (GK107 and GM107 respectively) taped out first. Maybe the experience with 20nm was enough for NV to go back to their usual big die first strategy. Given the huge gains in performance compared to 28nm, and the fact that the 16nm process is both immature and quite expensive, I suspect the die size may be a bit smaller than what we've seen with GK110/GM200.

Still wondering what they're doing on Samsung 14nm though, maybe just test chips for now?
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/nvidia-pascal-speculation-thread.55552/page-8#post-1848329
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Driver support for Pascal already now could be because they are still on target for Q1.... thumb.gif
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/nvidia-pascal-speculation-thread.55552/page-8#post-1848329

Wow, if Big Pascal comes out Q1 then I'll probably hold out on a second GTX 970 for SLI, Pascal looks like it could bring something awesome to the table!

The performance I have with one GTX 970 overclocked is great as it is, but I wouldn't mind having something more powerful to push the resolution up and maybe Anti-Aliasing too in more demanding games.

Hopefully the pricing is good too!
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Wow, if Big Pascal comes out Q1 then I'll probably hold out on a second GTX 970 for SLI, Pascal looks like it could bring something awesome to the table!

The performance I have with one GTX 970 overclocked is great as it is, but I wouldn't mind having something more powerful to push the resolution up and maybe Anti-Aliasing too in more demanding games.

Hopefully the pricing is good too!

Out of curiosity, what resolution are you running now? I run SLI 970's on 1080p and often feel that it is over powered for that resolution. I end up running games with DSR at 2-4x resolution just so I can feel like I'm using my hardware to its potential. I thought I would be running a new monitor by now but I just haven't found the one I want to spend money on.
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Out of curiosity, what resolution are you running now? I run SLI 970's on 1080p and often feel that it is over powered for that resolution. I end up running games with DSR at 2-4x resolution just so I can feel like I'm using my hardware to its potential. I thought I would be running a new monitor by now but I just haven't found the one I want to spend money on.

I'm running a 1080p 60Hz display, my single GTX 970 delivers 1080p 60fps average in the majority of the games I play (mostly the latest games), usually on the highest settings, or near the highest settings but with AA off or something off in a few games, I'm quite happy with the performance and I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have more.

I run GTA 5 at 1080p 60fps with the majority of the settings at their highest, except for Extended Draw Distance, High resolution shadows and I think maybe Grass quality, I run that at Very High instead of Ultra IIRC with 2X MSAA.

The frame-rate average is around 60fps however I do occasionally get minimums of around 45 fps+ in areas where there is alot of grass, likely the result of the combination of 2X MSAA and very high grass quality, if I take off the AA of I don't think it dips below 50 fps in those kind of areas.


The average frame-rate is great in the games I play as it's mostly around 60 fps or higher in some cases, but sometimes the minimum bugs me a little bit when it dips between 40 to 50 fps but it's not that big of a deal to me and I could probably ride out my GTX 970 for 2 to 3 years if I really wanted to, I ran my AMD Radeon 6850 for 2 years, I loved that GPU!


I suppose the extra power of an SLI GTX 970 setup would likely push my minimum frame-rate up (in the worst case scenario) from around 40-45 fps at the highest settings in the most demanding games to somewhere in the 50+ fps range. (When SLI is working well).

Whilst also leaving some room for applications of 2X or 4X MSAA in a few games whilst still maintaining around 60fps in the majority of games at 1080p, or I could just use DSR and run games at 1440p or in-between 1080p and 1440p in attempt to maintain a 60fps average, or close to it.

However I don't think I have a game which hits my hardware harder than GTA 5 and Assassin's Creed Unity.


I was tempted to get a second GPU if I had the budget for one near the end of the year or early next year, but that's if I don't decide to buy a PS4 or an Xbox One any-time soon for the exclusives.

I also thought about selling my GPU to get a 980 Ti but I don't think I want to put up with the hassle of trying to sell it, unless I knew a friend who was interested in my GTX 970 as I've never sold any hardware before. I've also had since the first few weeks of launch.

If Pascal comes around around the time I was considering to go SLI I might hold off on the SLI setup, even though it would be a pretty powerful setup.
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The SLI 970 setup works quite well, I rarely run into a situation where it doesn't work well in a game. For example, GTA V will run a 100fps + with everything turned up and 1080p. Tweaking settings allows me to run it at 4k DSR, with Vsync on I never get any drops from 60 fps and if I turn it off my max is around 75, so it does a pretty good job at being consistent. I have been quite surprised by how well the 970 sli can handle 4k DSR. When you look at reviews 970's are always killed at 4k but the performance gained by switching a few settings from "ULTRA MEGA!" can be pretty massive, for not much sacrifice in visual quality.

Although I am quite happy with my set up I will most likely be getting big pascal when ever it drops. I have been staying with the X70 series cards since I replace my 8800 GTX's with 570's since they have been good enough for 1080p gaming and I am ready to go back to the big boys and probably go up in resolution. Hopefully there will be 32" or larger 4k monitor with gsync by then.
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If I was only running 1920x1080 I wouldn't even care about this, but my GTX970 is only just good enough for 2560x1440, and not in all games.
    
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Lol love the road map from the last page... So grim on the outlook though.. Due to no competition we all know it...
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I hope that the new 16/14nm cards do blow everything out of the water, but my hopes and the reality have never gotten along quite well.

Nvidia is no charity and hates giving us what we want/dream of and AMD can't.

In the end it will probably be like this :

Q2-Q3 2016 Nvidia finished new GPU GTX 1080 and gives us a small 400mm² Pascal card for 549$ that is like 35% better than the 980 Ti. Random members on OCN.net express that their zombie 980 Ti with modded bios and 1700mhz overclock is faster than the stock GTX 1080.

Q4 2016 Nvidia gives us Pascal-Titan for 999$ (or even more) full fat. People buy it, because no competition. Jen-Hsun Huang is still using the same Titan-esque cooler with a different color tone this time.

Q4 2016 AMD releases their new cards. 5% slower than Pascal-Titan. Reference design is either horribly bad or has a hybrid cooler noone asked for. AMD calls it the Fury Reloaded. Also AMD releases the 490X. It is basically a rebranded 390X that was rebranded from the 290X, but now comes with 16GB of Vram. There will also be 32GB 490X cards, but they need an extra PCIE slot for the VRAM-extension card.

Q1 2017 Nvidia releases the 1080 Ti for 749$. Card is cut, but people buy it anyways. One guy on OCN.net mentions that noone in their right minds would've paid 749$ for a GTX 570 back in the days.



Maybe it is best you ask your magic 8 ball biggrin.gif

Too funny!

Pascal comes and performs great.

In Q4 2016 we find that Pascal doesn't really fully support Vulkan and that Half Life 3 run 30% worse than AMD's Islands 14nm GPU.

Someone makes another one of those comedian videos.

Maxwell optimization is dropped and performs worse in every game than Kepler in BO3/Project Cars/Witcher 3 with 128x AA Hair combined.

nVIDIA throws money for their own GPU path.

AMD 7970 from 2011 is now outpeforming the GTX 980 in all games regardless of API.

The masses rage that they will never buy nVIDIA again, but NVIDIA GPU share grows despite outage of consumers.

AMD sells Radeon brand to stay afloat.

In the year 2060 the Radeon 7970 becomes the worlds fully sentient AI, outperforming all humans at cognitive tasks.
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I think you are 100% right, except for one thing ...

It won't be called "Fury Reloaded".

It'll be called "Fury Road Edition". biggrin.gif
We all know perfectly well it is going to be called Crimson (Ice) Fury edition.
I'm so disappointed by no HBM for lower tier cards after all the "prices will come down for the 14nm cards hype"
Perhaps AMD could offer a mobile part with HBM as that is where AMD is lacking the most. Perhaps Nvidia can do a 750 Ti style card as a test platform for low profile low power low budget HBM that would be really amazing.
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Time to sell your old obsolete Titan Xs, 980s and 980 Tis, BOYS biggrin.gif
already ahead of you, gotta sell when it's still hot.
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