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I grew up with Windows PCs through the 90s (there wasn't really any other choice) and my desktop of choice has Windows, as does my laptop. However, Windows is the de facto O.S (be it consumer or business) not because it is necessarily the best. It hasn't risen to dominance because it ran the gauntlet of challenges from other major operating systems and came out on top. It is just there, in the vast majority of computers (for reasons that have been well discussed), and we have to just put up with it. That is how I view it.

That's not to say that I believe it doesn't work - users have had to make it work because we had no choice. But put it this way, if the software developer Gods made the perfect O.S, it would be very, very different to Windows. There's too much arbitrary crap that MS and Windows has forced us to accept, through familiarity and knowing no alternative, as the way computer software should work. If only we could be enlightened of another way an O.S could work, it would be revelatory. Now I'm not saying Macs and OSX is it, but I thoroughly welcome Apple's new ideas that seem to be more based on user-experience rather than restricted by truly antiquated MS software standards.
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more features = higher potential for bugs.
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more features = higher potential for bugs.

Windows has more features? Lol.
Edited by Shrak - 11/7/15 at 11:53am
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If you lock down everything and limit the system, you will end up with less technical problems... That and the fact that Apple dumbs everything down for the average consumer tongue.gif
Edited by Slomo4shO - 11/7/15 at 12:12pm
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I'm not the guy you're referring to, but for what it is worth I've used quite a bit of OSX and found it much harder to use than windows or even Linux.

Sure, I learned what I needed fairly quickly, but not any quicker than I learned it on other operating systems, and there was much more that I needed to relearn due to being intuitive from a windows/linux power user perspective as well as the lack of consistent and obvious feedback.

A lot of it has to do with what you are already accustomed to, and how deep your usage requirements/expectations are. A child of the 90s who's first experiences with computers were the iMacs obsequious to the era's public schools will have a much easier time navigating OSX than someone who has spent the majority of their computing life within a Windows environment. Additionally, someone who's use of OSX is limited to launching and working within common applications is going to find OSX a lot smoother to operate than someone who actually has to get "dirty" with networking and administration, for instance.

There is nothing important for the average user to re-learn.
The average user usually doesn't even know where exactly his programs are installed, how to adjust them, how to edit registry, how be or use power user systems.

The average user just wants to know how to install his program, and how to use it. And for that, for the average user, the "relearn" issue is irrelevant.

For a power user, who spend hours in his past to learn all of those things, how to adjust the OS to his liking, how to do things the average user doesn't know how to in windows, well, he will learn those on the OSX by spending the same amount of time. So again. I fail to see the point.

If you spend lets say 5 hours to learn how to be network admin on windows, do you think you should know in 10 seconds how to do network admin on OSX? No. Most likely you will need to spend 5 hours to learn how to network admin the OSX. So basically, spending a similar amount on the learning the OSX, will make you know how to make it work for the "power user" the same as he learned for windows.
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If you lock down everything and limit the system, you will end up with less technical problems... That and the fact that Apple dumbs everything down for the average consumer tongue.gif

You seems to have never been in a large enterprise system.
They dump down and lock everything in the windows as well. For both security, and so the average dump user will not do silly stuff like downloading and installing some malware he found online.
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It's not really a surprise that Mac beats Windows in ease of use and maintenance. Windows still has more mainstream application support and much greater selection of hardware, so the world isn't imploding quite yet. Also, let's not forget that Windows 10 is meant to be a long term solution. Apple still releases new paid OSX editions quite frequently.

But in reality, "Mac vs. PC" was never a thing. In my opinion, it's nothing more than an illusion created by the Apple marketing department. Both OS's have their individual uses, sure sometimes it's a tough choice for certain industries, but people know what they like and will choose accordingly.


I'm sure what you mean here is Apple releases new FREE OS X editions annually. I would also argue that "Mac vs. PC" is definitely a thing. How many Windows users do you know that use Windows just because that's what they've always used? Your relative that owns a computer just to go on Facebook, email, etc, does not need to have a greater selection of hardware or the vast majority of mainstream applications.
    
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Windows has more features? Lol.
More features, more programs, more applications, more hardware, more drivers....ETC
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More features, more programs, more applications, more hardware, more drivers....ETC

Features - overall for the bare system, they are similar. Windows have their policies and registry and AD, and OSX has everything similar as being based on linux.
Programs - I'm sure you have looked at the app store recently. And for enterprise, every program you can find for windows, you will most likely find for OSX as well.
Hardware and drivers - irrelevent. Mac are tailored to the hardware. You are not going to install mac on 1001 different hardwares in an enterprise environment. You will go with specific pre bought hardware to your needs plus enterprise install copied by complete images with no tailored adjustments per hardware.
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Hardware and drivers - irrelevent. Mac are tailored to the hardware. You are not going to install mac on 1001 different hardwares in an enterprise environment. You will go with specific pre bought hardware to your needs plus enterprise install copied by complete images with no tailored adjustments per hardware.
To be sure any administrator who doesn't want to drive themselves to suicide will do the same with Windows machines, and lock them down (no registry access, no administrator access, no program installation, etc) to prevent user interference with their tailored OS.
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