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I love the new 5k Mac personally. Its a sexy machine and would be a perfect home computer for the majority of users who couldn't care less about customization and overclocking. Problem is the price and the performance you get for your money. My sig rig is 3+ years old and would still kick the living daylights out of a Mac in performance with the ability to upgrade pieces as I need that a Mac owner could only dream of. That said, I like Mac's OS from what I have seen of it while playing around with one at BB and if I wanted a really solid AIO as a second computer in the house it would be really hard to argue against the Mac (minus the cost that is)...
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Group policy functions just fine once you understand inheritance. I figured it out in a homelab in a weekend.

It works well enough if you're in an environment built around Windows, yes. I still think it's a mangled mess, but that's outside the scope of this thread.

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Please enlighten me as to the number of projectors you've walked up to and plugged into with a Thunderbolt/MiniDP cable.
Projectors are stationary, though. I see that as a non-issue if you have a couple adapters present in conference rooms.

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I am an Enterprise WLAN administrator. It matters to me. People want Mac laptops to work in an enterprise and they SUCK at doing so in a 90% Wi-Fi environment which almost every major EDU environment is nowadays.

Fair point. I don't deal with wifi (our wireless connectivity is more micro and mm wave) enough to properly grasp what I'm sure you're more knowledgeable in, so I tend to think of production systems as a huge no-no when mentioned in the same breath as wifi. Could you elaborate a bit on the wireless aspect? PMs are fine if you prefer to keep this thread on course.
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Why? Nothing you do on your end workstation is of any significance, any good admin should know the heavy lifting is best left to Linux machines.
Ok, a few points here:

1. They absolutely conform to network "standards", so I'm not sure what you're on about.
2. Monitoring tools? Why are you trying to do this on a client machine? Use something like Centreon, Nagios, Corvil, EndaceProbe, etc etc. Client machines should not make a difference to how you implement monitoring. Every good monitoring tool is typically served up in a web UI, even Solarwinds is pretty flexible in that regard.
3. Macs work with AD using LDAP, so long as your domain isn't a .local (and even then, this only applies to 10.10 and 10.11)
4. Office works fine on a Mac, maybe it doesn't for you if you are the type of lazy admin who has been sitting on an ancient version of Exchange because "it mostly works"
5. I'm not sure what industry standards you're talking about.
Again, this is mystifying. Consoles are provided to you with a simple USB-serial adapter. OSX has support for things like that. SSH is built in. Have... have you ever used a Mac? And ease up on your "CONFIGURE THIS LOAD BALANCER" nonsense, if you really want to come off as elitist, we can start talking about networking in finserv/HFT that's beyond the scope of anything you'll touch in the next 10 years.
Yeah, just like your baseless assumptions and general inability to learn about an OS before trashing it with reckless abandon.

1. They don't tolerate EAP-TTLS for starters, nor do they retain network certs signed locally, or dot1x, or corporate wide anti-virus.
2. Have you ever tired to use a web UI while using your wifi adapter to hunt down a rogue device spoofing itself as an AP to scan for logon credentials?
3. I will personally give you $100 if you can get a mac to connect to a corporate environment that uses AD to assign access to shared resources, group policies, and goes out of its way to provide endpoint security.
4. Office does not work fine on a mac, office doesn't work fine on a PC. Office is a bloated mess whose only redeeming factor is Excel.
5. USB-to-serial adapters require adapters and I have yet to come across one that isn't USB 2.0 and doesn't require a driver. DP is not widely used since most companies keep monitors until they die. Even then, most new ones don't support display port. Thunderbolt is just a joke that will end up like firewire.

I have used Mac's, they are great for someone who is into media creation and can't be bothered to use common tools like Soundforge/Acid, FL Studio, Anything Adobe, or many others.

The key thing here is that Mac's are not as versitile as their PC counterparts, nor are they as secure, nor do they comply with widely accepted practices like AD and group policy.

And as for your comment about doing PROD over WiFi, Have you ever tired to build the backbone that would connect about 6000 total devices to a single data center and how much that would cost? Especially when people move their computers for meetings?

WiFi is not a secondary network that can be forgotten, and I have never seen a mac do what a PC can do for ease of connectivity, endpoint security, and transmit encryption.
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The epiphany of ignorance. I guess you haven't used a Mac in since 2001.

I haven't used Mac since elementary school. So, 1995.
    
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I haven't used Mac since elementary school. So, 1995.

So you should not comment on one, at all
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So you should not comment on one, at all

Meh. Hasn't changed much. It's still a bullock of an OS.
    
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Frankly Windows doesn't cut it for me in my particular multinational Enterprise network. I need POSIX, and I need UNIX, and Windows is neither.

No SSH indeed. I wonder how many OS X bashers have actually used it in the last ever.

Knock yourself out:
Since Interix is long dead, the day you can give me a decent POSIX package manager on Windows, you give me a call.
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In other news....an OS tightly tied to specific hardware configurations has less issues than an OS that tries to run on just about any hardware (I'm including Linux in this). Freedom isn't easy, pretty, or without problems but it is what everyone says they want; then again actions speak louder so I guess no body does.
     
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Macs are great machines. There is no denying that. If you bash Mac, you really do not understand technology.
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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

I wonder what it would come out as if the sucky PC OEMs stopped loading tons of random bloatware and adware on PCs as well as stopped using custom bios and firmware. Would probably change things.


Exactly the same.


As business in general don't use the default image.

IBM especially you can guarantee does not.
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