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Ok, so I got an Azio EE70-C3 HDTV and noticed when I was gaming on it that it was clearly displaying over 60 fps as there is a very specific fluid look to the 70+ fps range. I looked up the resolution and hertz in the nVidia control panel and it ways the HDTV is set to 1080P @ 60hz which is strange because it is most definitely displaying over that and my OSD proves such (I know it isn't just a number because I can clearly tell it is a high frame rate as I stated previously). I read that HDMI only supports enough bandwidth for 1080@60 which is trange because it looks like the tv only has HDMI inputs and again it is clearly showing the higher fps. I tried forcing the resolution to 1080@120hz although all I got as a black screen. If HDMI can't support 120hz then why the heck does it only have HDMI inputs and a 120hz panel? No matter what, though, I can see that it is clearly displaying up to 100 fps in my games.

What is going on here?
Edited by Exostenza - 11/3/15 at 4:22pm
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Hi there tongue.gif

well this sounds interesting, Although im not completely sure i would like to say a few things

Technically HDMI 1.3 or higher has the bandwidth required for displaying 1080p@60Hz, but I'm not sure if refresh rates over 75 Hz are part of the HDMI standard, you can try to set it for 70 to 75hz. and see biggrin.gif I do have 2 Asus monitors at 75Hz with Display Port to HDMI.

HDMI 1.4 does support 4K signals at 30 Hz.

HDMI 2.0 supports 4K signals at 60 Hz, although this is very new and not yet implemented in any device I have seen.

So I dont know if what you are experiencing is part of the Clear Motion produce by the TV itself.

I would like to quote a review that actually talk something regarding this:

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Picture add ons 3/5
Don't get me wrong, I know somebody likes the clear motion stuff, I just don't like it very much. That being said, I;m basing my score on it's functionality on this set, not my preference. Clear motion works amazing with native 1080p content, at the proper frame rate. That means Blu ray, USB video files, Ps4 content (except for FPS games) it runs clear and looks good. I have my PS4 wired with an ethernet, and the non native 1090p streaming app videos look good too, but any streaming 1080 videos that rely on bandwidth for their resolution it just looks cheap like a soap opera and all the defects are put on larger display. While I understand this is an overall Wifi issue, it is more prevelant because of the clear motion, and it just isn't there yet in terms of making the picture look better. If the processor somehow could detect settings and slow itself down, it'd be much better. As for video games, in 1080p at 30fps destiny looks amazing normally, but the clear motion caused so much clipping and dizziness it was unplayable. Do not expect to play high frame rate games at 1080p with clear motion. The jagging and clipping is brought out even more, because the processor thinks you are missing frames and adds frames where they aren't there. Same thing goes with the black detailer and the noise reduction engine. Anytime the signal coming in is questionable (high framte rate, low bandwidth streaming on wifi) you will notice pixelation and blockiness. It's not the TV, its the data and the technology. It's trying to make up for missing information, and it just doesn't work. I gave this a lower score as a result of the technology itself, still not being there. To be fair I haven't seen it work properly across all platforms with ANY TV, even the hgih end sets. AS for the local dimming feature, I notice the blacks look very deep and dark, but I don't have anything to compare them to as I came from a plasma set that had the same deep blacks as this set. The contrast on this set is phenomenal.

Video Games 5/5
Once I tweaked the settings, raised the framerate and changed the contrast settings, this TV actually makes my PS4 games look BETTER. The ms delay is unnoaticable. This is me coming from High end Samsung plasma with almost no delay, and moving to an LED and this latency is EVEN BETTER. You just have to remember to turn off clear motion, and turn off film mode, turn on game mode, and adjust the frame rate setting to HIGH. Advanced warfare looks real. Destiny looks like a CGI movie being played, and its insane how vivid and clear the colors are. Blacks are intense and deep too. Once the settings are correct, there is no clipping at all, and its playing at 30fps the whole time. This is only possible with an ethernet connection, I wouldnt risk it with a Wifi connection unless you're playing a game that isn't online based.
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here you can take a look at the review VIZIO E70-C3 70-Inch 1080p Smart LED HDTV

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Hi there tongue.gif

well this sounds interesting, Although im not completely sure i would like to say a few things

Technically HDMI 1.3 or higher has the bandwidth required for displaying 1080p@60Hz, but I'm not sure if refresh rates over 75 Hz are part of the HDMI standard, you can try to set it for 70 to 75hz. and see biggrin.gif I do have 2 Asus monitors at 75Hz with Display Port to HDMI.

HDMI 1.4 does support 4K signals at 30 Hz.

HDMI 2.0 supports 4K signals at 60 Hz, although this is very new and not yet implemented in any device I have seen.

So I dont know if what you are experiencing is part of the Clear Motion produce by the TV itself.

I would like to quote a review that actually talk something regarding this:

---
Picture add ons 3/5
Don't get me wrong, I know somebody likes the clear motion stuff, I just don't like it very much. That being said, I;m basing my score on it's functionality on this set, not my preference. Clear motion works amazing with native 1080p content, at the proper frame rate. That means Blu ray, USB video files, Ps4 content (except for FPS games) it runs clear and looks good. I have my PS4 wired with an ethernet, and the non native 1090p streaming app videos look good too, but any streaming 1080 videos that rely on bandwidth for their resolution it just looks cheap like a soap opera and all the defects are put on larger display. While I understand this is an overall Wifi issue, it is more prevelant because of the clear motion, and it just isn't there yet in terms of making the picture look better. If the processor somehow could detect settings and slow itself down, it'd be much better. As for video games, in 1080p at 30fps destiny looks amazing normally, but the clear motion caused so much clipping and dizziness it was unplayable. Do not expect to play high frame rate games at 1080p with clear motion. The jagging and clipping is brought out even more, because the processor thinks you are missing frames and adds frames where they aren't there. Same thing goes with the black detailer and the noise reduction engine. Anytime the signal coming in is questionable (high framte rate, low bandwidth streaming on wifi) you will notice pixelation and blockiness. It's not the TV, its the data and the technology. It's trying to make up for missing information, and it just doesn't work. I gave this a lower score as a result of the technology itself, still not being there. To be fair I haven't seen it work properly across all platforms with ANY TV, even the hgih end sets. AS for the local dimming feature, I notice the blacks look very deep and dark, but I don't have anything to compare them to as I came from a plasma set that had the same deep blacks as this set. The contrast on this set is phenomenal.

Video Games 5/5
Once I tweaked the settings, raised the framerate and changed the contrast settings, this TV actually makes my PS4 games look BETTER. The ms delay is unnoaticable. This is me coming from High end Samsung plasma with almost no delay, and moving to an LED and this latency is EVEN BETTER. You just have to remember to turn off clear motion, and turn off film mode, turn on game mode, and adjust the frame rate setting to HIGH. Advanced warfare looks real. Destiny looks like a CGI movie being played, and its insane how vivid and clear the colors are. Blacks are intense and deep too. Once the settings are correct, there is no clipping at all, and its playing at 30fps the whole time. This is only possible with an ethernet connection, I wouldnt risk it with a Wifi connection unless you're playing a game that isn't online based.
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here you can take a look at the review VIZIO E70-C3 70-Inch 1080p Smart LED HDTV

I hope this could help you rolleyes.gif
cheers.gif

+Rep

Thanks a bunch for the reply! I will have to check for clear motion to see what is happening with that for sure. I find it very odd that a TV would have an expensive 120hz panel but not support the inputs that would enable 120hz content. The HTDV realm is very strange. The games definitely look ultra smooth and have absolutely no graphical anomalies. Also, since the OSD is saying that the PC is pumping out over 60fps and the picture is clear why would it not be displaying that amount? If it didn't have enough bandwidth shouldn't there be some image quality issues? I just have no idea about this stuff when it comes to HDTVs and HDMI input. I will mess around with the settings tomorrow and reply back.

EDIT: The only option that I could find which would be clear motion is called clear action and it has been off the whole time so that cannot account for the clearly over 60 fps displayed. Also, I would like to note that when it is under 70 fps it does not have the 70+ fps look to it which would not be the case if clear motion was on.
Edited by Exostenza - 11/3/15 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by Exostenza View Post

I find it very odd that a TV would have an expensive 120hz panel but not support the inputs that would enable 120hz content.

Actually, you are totally right, I mean i dont understand why TV manufactures dont want to offer Display Port with the TV for example, which allows all the super features to work with the PC like high refresh rates without a problem thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif sure they will have to pay to use that feature, but come on thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Also I dont think you are suffering from a bandwidth problem, because if you were, then you most definitely will be missing a lot of frames, just like a weak wifi connection which you tend to lose packages

I did found 2 interesting things:

1st the TV, actually this whole serie have some restintions working as monitors like these:

1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
1080p @ 120Hz: No

2nd and is adding more on what the last reviewer wrote:

E-series has a dedicated picture mode for gaming. This is for optimal performance when it comes to input lag.

Now, It's hard for me to say why is this happening to you, but i guess you could try to play with the settings and see, at least the reviews said to do so rolleyes.gif

Now if you have a "Clear Action" which sounds almost the same as clear motion tongue.gif and it's off, then I dont think the TV is doing any extra frames. But who knows, because in the end from my understanding this feature allow the TV to create extra frames and show them in case there is a drop, so you won't feel dropping on frames with high refresh rates.

here are the links to both of them:

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/e-series-2015

http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/vizio-lcd-tv/vizio-e70-c3.html

Also you could try to increase the output of the HDMI to 70 or 72 or 75 Hz and see if the TV holds it biggrin.gif just like you tried with 120Hz tongue.gif
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Why, after 10 years of 120Hz panels, do people not understand? ....

It takes a 60Hz signal. I don't care what your OSD says. Without Vsync enabled your OSD can say 190 000 FPS and you'll still only get 60 on a 60Hz panel.

Your TV, like all 120Hz TVs, takes a signal at a max of 60Hz. It then interpolates extra frames into the signal to give the illusion of 120Hz. It is not true 120Hz like a 120Hz monitor is.

I don't believe you that "It looked like a 70Hz signal" because beyond 50Hz 99.999999999% of people can not tell the difference if it is a smooth framerate.

You're hallucinating, which doesn't surprise me since you're in Alberta and a lot of VOC's gas off from those tar sands.

HTH
Edited by mistersprinkles - 11/5/15 at 1:42pm
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Your TV, like all 120Hz TVs, takes a signal at a max of 60Hz. It then interpolates extra frames into the signal to give the illusion of 120Hz. It is not true 120Hz like a 120Hz monitor is.

I don't believe you that "It looked like a 70Hz signal" because beyond 50Hz 99.999999999% of people can not tell the difference if it is a smooth framerate.

You're hallucinating, which doesn't surprise me since you're in Alberta and a lot of VOC's gas off from those tar sands.

HTH

Did you conduct a study or something? Most everyone I know sees the difference between 60hz and 120hz as obvious. You may be right about the OPs TV but

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90

take it easy before you blow a head gasket, sir.
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Why, after 10 years of 120Hz panels, do people not understand? ....

It takes a 60Hz signal. I don't care what your OSD says. Without Vsync enabled your OSD can say 190 000 FPS and you'll still only get 60 on a 60Hz panel.

Your TV, like all 120Hz TVs, takes a signal at a max of 60Hz. It then interpolates extra frames into the signal to give the illusion of 120Hz. It is not true 120Hz like a 120Hz monitor is.

I don't believe you that "It looked like a 70Hz signal" because beyond 50Hz 99.999999999% of people can not tell the difference if it is a smooth framerate.

You're hallucinating, which doesn't surprise me since you're in Alberta and a lot of VOC's gas off from those tar sands.

HTH

Bro, I dont understand why the hate?

As you said, after 10 years of 120Hz panels, what people actually want or expect are improvements, that's why most modern products might say or claim somethings, but a good review and research is needed to tell the truth from lies.

Now regarding that extremely low porcentage of people can not tell the difference, well that's maybe because most people still use 60Hz panels, being cheaper and actually the norm these days, there are a few videos reviews out there that talk about this issue, one of them coming from LTT.

Can Linus See More than 60Hz??? Part 1

Can Linus See More than 60Hz??? Part 2

Im just trying to be nice here, cheers rolleyes.gif
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Did you conduct a study or something? Most everyone I know sees the difference between 60hz and 120hz as obvious. You may be right about the OPs TV but

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take it easy before you blow a head gasket, sir.
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As someone that owns a 120hz monitor.

You would need to be blind or have poor vision not to be able to tell 60hz from 120hz on a monitor. It is a Night and Day difference. Only people who have never used one or have poor vision can make such a statement.
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Did you conduct a study or something? Most everyone I know sees the difference between 60hz and 120hz as obvious. You may be right about the OPs TV but

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90

take it easy before you blow a head gasket, sir.

Much like 720P vs 1080P @ 8 feet distance, I seriously doubt that in a double blind test, you could discern with any kind of reliability a 60Hz image from a 120Hz image.
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Ive seen your posts; some things you are clearly very knowledgeable about. In this case you are way out of your depth and spouting nonsense.
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