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Leaving my Poor G400 Behind, Need Advice

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Hi guys, I've been a long time lurker and for the past week I have been researching what mouse I should get to replace the my G400 (rev2, so no angle snapping on mine). What's the reason I am looking to move from my G400? Basically I am just looking for an "upgrade" for my sensor and my G400 is having issues tracking recently.

Mice I have used (minus the old optical or ball mice I started with back in 1998 playing CS, Rainbow 6, and Rogue Spear):
  1. Logitech MX510
  2. Logitech MX518
  3. Logitech G5
  4. Logitech G400

As you can tell, I love the G400 shape. I rest my ring finger on the right lip and it works perfectly for me. If they put a new 3366 sensor in the G400 body it would be perfection.

Mice I have tried over the past few years and disliked:
  1. Logitech G500: I really disliked the off-center sensor position
  2. Logitech G402: Slightly uncomfortable due to the narrow right lip
  3. Logitech G502: Loved the sensor, but was uncomfortable due to the narrow right lip and it was way too heavy
  4. Razer DA 2013: Sensor was fine, but I hated that my ring finger had no good location on top and gripping the side cramped my hand (see example at the very end of this post).

Now to the QA section:
1. What's your grip style? Hybrid Grip (See pictures below)
2. What's your sensitivity? ~35-45 CM per 360
3. What's your maximum budget? 200
4. Do you want additional buttons? Just Mouse 4/5
5. What games do you play? League of Legends, CS series, BF series, HotS
6. Do you mind about prediction? I prefer NO prediction, acceleration, angle snapping, etc.
7. Other relevant information: Prefer medium to low LoD, G400 shape, <100g weight, little to no input lag, light switches, and my hand size is ~20.5cm


The most important thing to me is comfort. I can use the G400 shape and it is perfect for me. The issue is there aren't any modern mice that keep that right lip to rest my ring finger on (almost 3 fingers on top). I start cramping when I need to move my ring finger closer to my pinky. The next important thing to me is finding a mouse with the 3310 or 3366 sensor. The issue is, every mouse I have found has a small issue and I am not sure if it will be comfortable. Lastly, since I play LoL at a high level, I spam right click A LOT, so I don't want to fatigue spamming it.

After some research, this is what I've found so far:
  • Mionix Castor: Good sensor and has easy to press buttons, but I am unsure about shape for my grip and the switches seem to have more delay than the other mice.
  • Zowie EC2-a: Good sensor, but has hard to press buttons and I am unsure about the shape for my grip.
  • Zowie ZA11: Good sensor, but has hard to press buttons and I've never used an ambidextrous mouse for gaming (are the buttons on the right side annoying??)

My grip:






What gives me cramps (I hate this grip):

Edited by masterkaj - 11/3/15 at 10:02pm
post #2 of 16
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I love the G400 shape.
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The next important thing to me is finding a mouse with the 3310 or 3366 sensor.

Have you considered the FinalMouse? It's a copy of the Imperator which was a copy of the MX518/G400 shape. It uses the 3310 (stuck at 500Hz though). The weight is also very low. Much lower than the G400.
post #3 of 16
Finalmouse 2015. It has the ring finger rest like the g400
post #4 of 16
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I've looked at it, but have had issues finding places to purchase it.
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Buy another G400 or clean/fix your old one if possible, otherwise you'll simply need to adjust to a new shape. That classic Logitech shape is pretty unique (to the product line), and apart from the lack of customization options, G400's sensor is still arguably one of the best.
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G400s. G402.

MAYBE a Roccat Kone series or Castor.
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G400s. G402.

MAYBE a Roccat Kone series or Castor.

All of those mice (except 400s) have a grip with 2 fingers on the side. The guy in the OP said this gives him cramps.

I would maybe look at the taipan as an option.
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post #8 of 16
Try Epicgear Cyclops X, I know people who switched from their logitech mouse to this mouse.
post #9 of 16
just search for the g400s, maybe you can get it cheap on alliexpres, and buy 3 or 4 of those, you will be set for life
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Try Epicgear Cyclops X, I know people who switched from their logitech mouse to this mouse.
I don't think it's sold in the United States.
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just search for the g400s, maybe you can get it cheap on alliexpres, and buy 3 or 4 of those, you will be set for life
I have thought about doing this.
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