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i already tested sandy bridge vs skylake and there is 30-40% better IPC .And i already done some test vs haswell and skylake is 10-25% faster
http://www.overclock.net/t/1578480/i5-2500k-4-5ghz-vs-6700k-4-5ghz-in-games

Like war thunder 1.53 CPU benchmark
1920x1080 everything max AA OFF
4670k 4.2Ghz min 107 avg 125
6700K HT OFF 4.2Ghz min 131 avg 157.7Fps

Skylake is 25% faster than haswell there.

That benchmark thread has a major experimental flaw though. The RAM in the Skylake rig is twice the amount and much faster.
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I think that even if dx12 is heavily optimised for more than 4 cores it will take quite some time for games to catch up.
By the time that 4 cores is insufficient I would expect enough time to have passed that a new architecture is available and I might consider upgrading if needed.

So I think ill go with 6600k and overcklock it and put that £200 into savings for an upgrade if needed.

Thanks for your reply scooby.

Been an amd man forever so Intel stuff is a bit confusing
I have to upgrade soon as my old am3+ system needs stupid vcore to maintain a stable overclock and if I drop back to stock speeds games are unplayable.
Whatever I change to will be a massive improvement.
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I think that even if dx12 is heavily optimised for more than 4 cores it will take quite some time for games to catch up.
By the time that 4 cores is insufficient I would expect enough time to have passed that a new architecture is available and I might consider upgrading if needed.

So I think ill go with 6600k and overcklock it and put that £200 into savings for an upgrade if needed.

Thanks for your reply scooby.

Been an amd man forever so Intel stuff is a bit confusing
I have to upgrade soon as my old am3+ system needs stupid vcore to maintain a stable overclock and if I drop back to stock speeds games are unplayable.
Whatever I change to will be a massive improvement.

Oh yeah! Massive for sure! I still like AMD though too. I build them for my buddies all the time that don't chase the numbers and think a $600 GPU is stupid! haha The AMD's do very good for people that want to play games and don't get caught up in the numbers game. There really is a lot that comes with the numbers game though... first and foremost, smoother game play and less frame drops!

That's why I stick with Intel now-a-days. I was on AMD for a long time in the 2000's. My first Intel was the 2500k. lol That jump was MASSIVE! I just wish AMD would do something to make a better attempt at being competitive again with their CPU's.
Edited by Scooby Boostin - 11/8/15 at 11:18am
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Would also like to know that. They should be in the low 18k's.

At least they should be or else my scores@4.5 are low and something is wrong. tongue.gif



Thanks for the score Koniakki thumb.gif wow so high smile.gif I only use 3930K @4.8GHz and got 16.900 in physic test Firestrike biggrin.gif I can't afford X99 platform so I use old X79 for now. Looking forward to DX12 games with windows 10, should be something new with this 12threads biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the score Koniakki thumb.gif wow so high smile.gif I only use 3930K @4.8GHz and got 16.900 in physic test Firestrike biggrin.gif I can't afford X99 platform so I use old X79 for now. Looking forward to DX12 games with windows 10, should be something new with this 12threads biggrin.gif

3930K@4.8G's and a 17K cpu score its nothing to sneeze at! It still extremely powerful and you can stay with that until appropriate upgrade is needed or wanted(Skylake-E?).. thumb.gif

Going from your CPU@4.8 with close to 17K score to a 5820K@4.5 for a 1-1,3K cpu score jump is kinda not worthy unless you already want to upgrade and you are chasing records. tongue.gif


P.S: I wanna add on the 6700k vs 5820k debate that from a price perspective, that when I build my rig the 6700k was actually more expensive(let me check. Now they're priced the same) than my 5820k. I would have only saved at max 50euros from the motherboard when I had deducted the price difference between them.

That was mostly the only difference between them then. Now the 6700K and the 5820k as I said are priced the same.

So since the difference between a 6700K and a 5820k build is only the CPU/Motherboard since the rest of the components are the same, it down to saving 50-100euros which would depend on the motherboard choice. Just my 0.03c.
Edited by Koniakki - 11/11/15 at 12:13am
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how people can say 6700k beat the OC 5820k ? many games now using +8 threads without problem " GTA V & AC Unity & BF4 & BF3 & Crysis 3 and many others " the 5820k @4.2ghz should beat the 6700k with no doubt it's not the 2 extra cores only on the 5820k the Quad channel memory 65K memory read/write vs 30k ? 8 memory slot ? more PCI lanes ? 5960X upgrade ability ?

look at the 2600k and 3930k now ? even the price difference but the 2600k start bottleneck with high end card those day 980/Ti while the 3930k still push any card to the limit with some OC, the same will happen after 2 year 6700k user will start to bottleneck while 5820k user will stay on the line and remember after 2 year the 5960X will be cheap to upgrade tell me how you will beat 8 core + HT ?

keep in mind I'm coming from 4790k @4.7ghz and my 5820k @4ghz beat that stupid quad core cpu biggrin.gif
   
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how people can say 6700k beat the OC 5820k ? many games now using +8 threads without problem " GTA V & AC Unity & BF4 & BF3 & Crysis 3 and many others " the 5820k @4.2ghz should beat the 6700k with no doubt it's not the 2 extra cores only on the 5820k the Quad channel memory 65K memory read/write vs 30k ? 8 memory slot ? more PCI lanes ? 5960X upgrade ability ?

look at the 2600k and 3930k now ? even the price difference but the 2600k start bottleneck with high end card those day 980/Ti while the 3930k still push any card to the limit with some OC, the same will happen after 2 year 6700k user will start to bottleneck while 5820k user will stay on the line and remember after 2 year the 5960X will be cheap to upgrade tell me how you will beat 8 core + HT ?

keep in mind I'm coming from 4790k @4.7ghz and my 5820k @4ghz beat that stupid quad core cpu biggrin.gif

wutever happened to nvidia remarkable cpu overhead.?
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wutever happened to nvidia remarkable cpu overhead.?

Here we go again... rolleyes.gif
   
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Here we go again... rolleyes.gif

what do you mean? no way a 2600K bn a single 980 Ti. stock maybe. or, unstable oc.
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what do you mean? no way a 2600K bn a single 980 Ti. stock maybe. or, unstable oc.

It depend on the game 980 TI @1080p in BF4 & BF3 multiplayer will bottleneck with no doubt but in 1440p or higher its fine .. my point for OB 6core > 4core with 10% IPS gain

I had the 2600k in the past that OC to 4.5ghz and upgrade to I7 4770 the later beat the 2600k in BF3 & BF4 that's with 280X card and ya upgrading the 4770 to 4770k then 4790k then 5820k the later is awesome cpu push any game to +120 fps easily with my 970S cards...

Ya I remember your crysis 3 photo my 5820k stay between 70% - 85% usage in open jungle but my both 970s +96% usage with +100 fps thumb.gif
   
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Evga SuperNova 1300 G2 Nzxt H440 Plus white  Razer Mamba Tournament Edition XXXL Pad 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 7700k Quad Core OC 5.1Ghz 1.344v Asus Z270 IX Code Nvidia GTX Titan-X Pascal 12GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 16GB 3000/C15 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Nvme 960 Evo 500GB Pny CS1311 480GB ThermalTake Water 3.0 Extreme 360m + Triple Rin... Windows 10 Pro 64Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG24QE 1080p 144Hz Razer Blackwidow Chroma  Evga SuperNova 850 B2 Corsair 780T White + Asus Front Base  
Mouse
Steelseries Rival 100  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core 3.0GHz LGA... MSI X99A GODlike Gaming Extreme Gaming Intel X99 MSI GTX 1070 Gaming-X 8GB SLI MSI GTX 1070 Gaming-X 8GB SLI 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeance led 64GB 8*8GB 2666Mhz Samsung 950 Pro 256GB ( Boot )  Samsung 850 Evo 1TB  Samsung 850 Evo 1TB  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H110i + SP140 Push/Pull Windows 10 Pro 64Bit Asus PG278Q 2560*1440p 144hz Gsync Razer BlackWidow Chroma Clicky Mechanical Gamin... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Evga SuperNova 1300G + Red Sleeved Cabel's Corsair 780T Black + Nzxt HUe +  Razer Mamba Tournament Edition - Professional G... Corsair Extended pad 
Audio
Creative Sound Blaster-Z 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6700k Skylake @4.7Ghz 1.320v  Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 7 Evga GTX 1070 8GB Superclocked ACX 3.0  Corsair 16GB 3200Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 950 Pro 256GB in Raid 0 Samsung 950 Pro 256GB in Raid 0 Samsung 850 Evo 1TB  Samsung 850 Evo 1TB  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H110i + SP140 white fan's Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit Asus PG278Q 2560X1440p 144hz Gsync Razer BlackWidow Chroma RGB Mechanical Gaming 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Evga SuperNova 1300 G2 Nzxt H440 Plus white  Razer Mamba Tournament Edition XXXL Pad 
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