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As much as people have invested into this game i think 11 years is more then enough to have fun. It would be nice for Blizzard to shut down WoW and pull those resources to make something new.
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My favorite quote:

"Those indicators will apparently be measured in "engagement," a porous sort of term the studio already seems quite fond of. Hearthstone's "key engagement metrics" have grown 77 percent year-over-year, for instance, while Black Ops 2 engagement has increased as well, despite being three years old and unavailable on current-gen consoles. " - PCGamer

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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

As much as people have invested into this game i think 11 years is more then enough to have fun. It would be nice for Blizzard to shut down WoW and pull those resources to make something new.

Like Warcraft 4 - Only been been 13+ years ....
Edited by Deago999 - 11/4/15 at 11:45am
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Hang on, are you saying they're no longer permabanning botters?

They stopped permabanning all botters maybe 6 years ago? Used to be any botting = permanent ban. Then it was relaxed for PVP purposes (around Wrath IIRC). Then it got a bit more relaxed for stuff like fishing and leveling. Even using external programs was super relaxed. Anyway, Blizzard threw the hammer down pretty hard about half a year ago and handed out a ton of 6 month bans for anyone who used HB during the time it was detectable (for whatever reason). Exploiting the economy by herbing, mining, etc. has always been perma. Issue is so many people who PVP would just bot BGs (and the world PVP stuff) since they got relaxed with it that you had top players doing it. Hell, I remember when most top players would use external programs like Tmorph for model editing and would do it live on stream with no issues (never got banned for that or AutoHotKey).
post #24 of 69
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Hopefully this is the start of WoW's real retirement.

It was a great run, but they all end.

Pretty much.

After Titan was stripped down into HOTS, it was game over.

That being said, they're no longer reporting numbers PUBLICLY. Per annual meetings, they still have to release the numbers.

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Everyquest wants to have a word with you tongue.gif

I see wow shrinking back but i don't see it retiring any time soon.

Everquest is a unique example...In fact, the studio actually bought themselves out of contract from Sony so...

Everquest also only has about 100k total accounts - Accounts - Which is an important distinction - There are really only about 50k users...

That being said, WoW has been hemorrhagingfor years...Their rate of decay has been about 1m/year and with a disappointing expansion release, that's accelerating.

At the last meeting, classic servers were rehashed as being a good idea - I happen to agree with that. Classic servers with certain limitations will push some serious numbers as well as bring back a lot of people...
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Pretty much.

After Titan was stripped down into HOTS, it was game over.

Overwatch.
post #26 of 69
World of Candy Crushcraft will be their lifesaver.
post #27 of 69
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Blizzard threw the hammer down pretty hard about half a year ago and handed out a ton of 6 month bans for anyone who used HB during the time it was detectable (for whatever reason)

The only thing the game had that kept me around was Battlegrounds. I mean everyone I knew was long gone... I was close to quitting as it was because almost every BG had blatant cheating in one form or another. Then a bunch of people get caught and the punishment is a 6 month suspension.... really?

I'm on the edge of ranting so I'll just say that's when I pushed the cancel button on my accounts. Maybe a month ago I decided to see in person if BG's were any better... The first few were ok but then the obvious BS started rolling into play. Its easy to debate a lot of things but when people are flying in BG's, under the Z axis etc There really isn't much to debate about whether they are "cheating" or not... My view is simply... If Blizzard doesn't care about their product, why should I pay for it.

Overall the game hasn't really been enjoyable (to me) for a long time.. but when the BG's were decent I did enjoy those.
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At the last meeting, classic servers were rehashed as being a good idea - I happen to agree with that. Classic servers with certain limitations will push some serious numbers as well as bring back a lot of people...

Wrong forum, you meant to post this on mmo-champ.
Even if you go by same people on that forum screaming and making polls you won't get enough accounts to even warrant 1 physical server cost. Not to mention the rest of the work.

Not posting in public their numbers is good idea. Some people quit because of that alone. On a basis that if dropped from 10 mil to 7 it is dead now, terrible game qq.
Also, don't worry, they will post numbers if legion pulls 10mil or something like that.
However I'm reading this announcement as: we're trying to hype legion, but it'll be even worse than draenor and we are not sorry. We will think of some bs excuse and blame it on players.
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Problem for them is their competition, Guild Wars 2.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/21/guild-wars-2-sales-figures-revealed


They just hit 5 million sales, and if the WoW sub numbers have continued to fall, they will probably already have surpassed them in user count. (Though it would be nice to know the "active" account numbers, accounts with 1 login within 1 month)

Hahahahahah! Guild wars 2 died a few months after it came out never mind going on for 11 years. Guild wars 2 is no threat at all to wow in any way imaginable, people will go back for the heart xpac in gw2 then quit again after a month or two. Also sales of the game =/= 5.5 million people buying the game and subbing every month.

While this game is stagnant and a shadow of it's former self it's still the best mmo on the market, which says more about the market than wow.
Edited by sugalumps - 11/4/15 at 1:25pm
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It's still 5.5 million . Ofc the numbers will go down if the last patch gonna stay like that for months. Just having one raid is not worth it to sub for all this time
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