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The sad truth is, no enthusiasts will buy Zen if they don't overclock well, no matter how good the chip is. wink.gif

AMD needs the server market to survive, so as long as the performance/ watt is good, Zen will be good.

That's not true, otherwise everyone would still have sandy bridge and FX chips. Performance is all that really matters in the end.
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The sad truth is, no enthusiasts will buy Zen if they don't overclock well, no matter how good the chip is. wink.gif

AMD needs the server market to survive, so as long as the performance/ watt is good, Zen will be good.

Because we all know enthusiasts are the biggest market out there... rolleyes.gif
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Great news, they seem quite confident.
post #14 of 85
Well, the 14nm LPP is Samsung tech, Samsung seem to be on a roll right now.
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post #15 of 85
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Come on man. History doesn't repeat itself that often wink.gif

theres one thing about history that leads to a delayed re-occurrence, and that is it goes more catastrophic. biggrin.gif
e.g. WW3 might be the end of human kind for all we know.
post #16 of 85
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Because we all know enthusiasts are the biggest market out there... rolleyes.gif

The enthusiast market actually does matter, as enthusiasts have a certain amount of influence on what main stream buyers buy.
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The enthusiast market actually does matter, as enthusiasts have a certain amount of influence on what main stream buyers buy.

Still far, far lower than OEMs and enterprise market is. I never said it doesnt matter but its nowhere near as influent as some make it to be.
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post #18 of 85
Well AMD definitely doesn't have the money to out bribe Intel when Zen APU's and laptop chips launch.

Intel will do what they did with the Pentium 4.
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post #19 of 85
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The sad truth is, no enthusiasts will buy Zen if they don't overclock well, no matter how good the chip is. wink.gif

AMD needs the server market to survive, so as long as the performance/ watt is good, Zen will be good.

If there is a good IPC bump and stock clocks are in the 3-4 GHz range, I'd buy one. I barely care about overclocking anymore. It's not like the 90s where overclocking made your system feel faster overall. It just adds a lot of power consumption for no reason.
post #20 of 85
lower clocks is better for power efficiency, since higher clock speeds increases the CPU's core voltage requirement.
so an IPC boost of like 200% but clock speeds at 2Ghz would have a far better power efficiency, simply because you can keep core voltage to as low as 0.8V.

and on that note, i'd anticipate the trend to go that way, in the long run at least.
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