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Good job, now don't screw it up!

On a side note; how great is the name of Mark Papermaster for a paper launch?!
    
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People here are so clueless its funny.

Let me try for the 10th time. This is LOW POWER process. Its unsuited for Zen. Period.
14nm LPP and LPE have a target voltage of 0.8V. When was the last time you saw a desktop CPU with that?

A10-7870K for example have a Core Voltage of 1.4xV.
You even have binned 15W weak Carrizo APUs like 8800P, but even they surpass 0.8V and is close to 0.9V Core Voltage.

These 14nm products being produced at GloFo is most likely Seattle or Hierofalcon or any other ARM project AMD have going on. They have already taped out ARM and it will undoubtly be one of they new key fields for AMD to get revenue from.
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Awesome! biggrin.gif
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The efficiency of a Carrizo or a Godvari on 14nm would be a pretty substantial boost for something that's already (I believe) leading the pack in their respective categories.
I'm excited.

I would absolutely love the processor that replaces my 2500k to be an AMD.
    
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People here are so clueless its funny.

Let me try for the 10th time. This is LOW POWER process. Its unsuited for Zen. Period.
14nm LPP and LPE have a target voltage of 0.8V. When was the last time you saw a desktop CPU with that?

A10-7870K for example have a Core Voltage of 1.4xV.
You even have binned 15W weak Carrizo APUs like 8800P, but even they surpass 0.8V and is close to 0.9V Core Voltage.

These 14nm products being produced at GloFo is most likely Seattle or Hierofalcon or any other ARM project AMD have going on. They have already taped out ARM and it will undoubtly be one of they new key fields for AMD to get revenue from.

The 8800p is using 28nm planar process, this is going to be made on 14nm finFET. It's going to be able to run at much lower voltage. Maybe not 0.8v, but 0.9v is definitely possible.
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People here are so clueless its funny.

Let me try for the 10th time. This is LOW POWER process. Its unsuited for Zen. Period.
14nm LPP and LPE have a target voltage of 0.8V. When was the last time you saw a desktop CPU with that?

A10-7870K for example have a Core Voltage of 1.4xV.
You even have binned 15W weak Carrizo APUs like 8800P, but even they surpass 0.8V and is close to 0.9V Core Voltage.

These 14nm products being produced at GloFo is most likely Seattle or Hierofalcon or any other ARM project AMD have going on. They have already taped out ARM and it will undoubtly be one of they new key fields for AMD to get revenue from.

This is AMD, I think you mean key new field for them to make losses in.
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The 8800p is using 28nm planar process, this is going to be made on 14nm finFET. It's going to be able to run at much lower voltage. Maybe not 0.8v, but 0.9v is definitely possible.

0.8V is definitely possible, i've had my HD7950 GPU run at 0.95V @ 800Mhz during it's mining days.
while you can argue that its a GPU, the point is that operating at a very low voltage isn't impossible.
and if i remember right there had been some CPUs at ~1Ghz or so capable of running at 0.85V.


edit:
found it, and its even on a 65nm node.


Edited by epic1337 - 11/6/15 at 4:27pm
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I sure hope these chips are waterproof cuz it's sink or swim for AMD at this point.
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I sure hope these chips are waterproof cuz it's sink or swim for AMD at this point.

Pretty much. I can't see how someone hasn't bought them up already. They need a company re-work and need to put the management out to pasture. How you have so many decent low to mid-range GPU's while still losing money is a mystery to me. (and no, I don't need anyone to explain it)

There's no reason they can't make a profit when their low/mid lineup is so competitive with Nvidia's offerings. I get that the 980ti is better but that's one card and the flagship which is not the bread and butter. Makes no sense. If I were a major stockholder I'd be livid.
     
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Pretty much. I can't see how someone hasn't bought them up already. They need a company re-work and need to put the management out to pasture. How you have so many decent low to mid-range GPU's while still losing money is a mystery to me. (and no, I don't need anyone to explain it)

There's no reason they can't make a profit when their low/mid lineup is so competitive with Nvidia's offerings. I get that the 980ti is better but that's one card and the flagship which is not the bread and butter. Makes no sense. If I were a major stockholder I'd be livid.

Well that's pretty much the reason they spun their GPU department into it's own company.

Also, why pay more today when you can get a bargain after Zen fails? No reason to buy now and risk footing the bill for failure.
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