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post #611 of 2415
I get that (about some of the heatspreader designs being decorative). But the poster said they don't need heatspreaders, not that they don't need gaudy designs.
post #612 of 2415
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I get that (about some of the heatspreader designs being decorative). But the poster said they don't need heatspreaders, not that they don't need gaudy designs.

You must not know much about RAM.


edit: oh look! yet another guy saying the exact same thing as I did and he has a company of engineers behind him with that data:
http://www.overclock.net/t/528648/official-heatkiller-club/670#post_25539316
Edited by EniGma1987 - 9/28/16 at 7:04am
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post #613 of 2415
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You must not know much about RAM.

Dunno about you but 640K ought to be enough for everyone. I don't know why anyone bothers with that newer fancy stuff especially pushing 3200MHz+; and those heatspreaders! My god, what a waste.



Sorry I know offtopic from Zen.
Edited by TheBloodEagle - 9/21/16 at 10:06am
post #614 of 2415
nvm, wrong thread
Edited by MrPerforations - 9/21/16 at 10:13am
    
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post #615 of 2415
Sorry again.

Since BTX was brought up, I'm curious what you guys think would happen if say Zen+ (and Intel's offerings) no longer had a PCH/Southbridge? What would motherboard makers do with that extra space there? Place more M.2 slots in that section? Or maybe just a slimmer form factor such as mini-ATX? Mini-ATX seems like an easier transition, if ever, than BTX for case designers.


http://www.10stripe.com/featured/form/atx.php


Edited by TheBloodEagle - 9/21/16 at 10:28am
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What would motherboard makers do with that extra space there?

More RGB LEDs.
post #617 of 2415
You're probably right biggrin.gif
post #618 of 2415

my mems, under load, no coolers or fans.
so those ddr4 can fail wtihout cooling (?)
    
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my mems, under load, no coolers or fans.
so those ddr4 can fail wtihout cooling (?)


What on earth are you talking about?
post #620 of 2415
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So, according to you, all those high clocked RAM kits out there are just wasting metal putting heatspreaders on them? There is absolutely 100% zero need for any kind of heatsink/heatspreader on RAM, ever? The chips are fine bare? Possibly a big scam all around?

Not so much a scam as the heatspreaders are there for looks. There's a reason all the RAM records are set with baked RAM, and that's because the thermal tape actually stops the RAM from being cooled as efficiently as if it were bare.

I've removed the heatspreaders from too many sets of RAM to count, and without fail they all offered a few extra MHz (air cooled with a fan blowing straight over them). My BH-5 that did SuperPi at 290 MHz 2-2-2-5 only managed 285 MHz with the heatspreaders in place, the last 5 MHz came from running them bare.
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