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CMP stands for Chip MultiProcessing, not Chip Multi-Core Processor.
This technology, called Chip Multiprocessing (CMP), duplicates or multiplies the entire processor core with almost all of its subsystems on a single die.
It is also possible to "simply" co-package two already existing and only slightly modified processors with some additional logic, which will behave exactly as a dual-core die.
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that sounds like core2quad. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Faithh View Post



Need any explanation for this? If it were CMP, it'd be 100% not 80% - actually they wouldn't have even mentioned that if it was CMP. The other picture I've just given you, confirms it. AMD + that source against you. Who wins?

contrary to AMD's slides, bulldozer takes up more die area than intel's at the same node, performs worse, and consumes more power!
Edited by epic1337 - 11/10/15 at 12:42pm
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If Bulldozer's cores aren't actually complete processors because they share components, does that mean that my GPU doesn't have 1792 (stream) processors? It only has 28 of them? Or worse, if we look at a shader engine design, it's only a quad-core GPU?

Food for thought.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to sue AMD for misleading me. I only got 0.223% the cores the specs claimed my GPU had. wink.gif
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If Bulldozer's cores aren't actually complete processors because they share components, does that mean that my GPU doesn't have 1792 (stream) processors? It only has 28 of them? Or worse, if we look at a shader engine design, it's only a quad-core GPU?

Food for thought.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to sue AMD for misleading me. I only got 0.223% the cores the specs claimed my GPU had. wink.gif
Um... sue everyone for selling multi-core processors. If the processor is on a single die then it's obviously misleading to consumers.

Clearly, the real standard is for each die to be counted as one core. After all, in the past, processors had separate dies when the system had more than one CPU in them. That's what the consumer expects.

The consumer can't see what's inside the die any more than Palin can see Russia from her house.

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Originally Posted by Marios145 View Post

CMP stands for Chip MultiProcessing, not Chip Multi-Core Processor.

Still I'm correct.

"Chip multiprocessors - also called multi-core microprocessors or CMPs for short"

http://www.morganclaypool.com/doi/abs/10.2200/S00093ED1V01Y200707CAC003

Edit: And no, 2 different CPU's in one package like C2Q's is a "Module-chip module".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-chip_module
Edited by Faithh - 11/10/15 at 2:05pm
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bulldozer was the biggest fail of the century

I remember the AMD rep kept coming in the bulldozer thread to hype it up every few days for over 2 years
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bulldozer was the biggest fail of the century

I remember the AMD rep kept coming in the bulldozer thread to hype it up every few days for over 2 years

It wasn't a bad processor just not adequate for the fat programs out there. We're still suckling on fat programs.
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If Bulldozer's cores aren't actually complete processors because they share components, does that mean that my GPU doesn't have 1792 (stream) processors? It only has 28 of them? Or worse, if we look at a shader engine design, it's only a quad-core GPU?

Food for thought.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to sue AMD for misleading me. I only got 0.223% the cores the specs claimed my GPU had. wink.gif

REP+ You deserve a cookie.
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It wasn't a bad processor just not adequate for the fat programs out there. We're still suckling on fat programs.

your right.. it was a terrible processor.. the way AMD made it out to be the best thing since sliced bread it made alot of people never look at AMD again including me who was hyped up for it.
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I think the CPU it'self caused more than enough suffering for AMD without this on top. Well deserved suffering too after the way they hyped it up.
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