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Still, how good rthe CPU is doesn't mean it isn't an actual core, or I'll have words to you lot about Atom.
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Still, how good rthe CPU is doesn't mean it isn't an actual core, or I'll have words to you lot about Atom.
I have a work PC that runs on Atom D525 or something like that. Can't do proper office work with 1 or 2 specialized programs... Too slow.
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I have a work PC that runs on Atom D525 or something like that. Can't do proper office work with 1 or 2 specialized programs... Too slow.

Time to buy an AM1. Seriously one of the most powerful low power CPU an AMD. Who would've thought it! I'm serious about how potent a 5350 is for it's price range.
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Time to buy an AM1. Seriously one of the most powerful low power CPU an AMD. Who would've thought it! I'm serious about how potent a 5350 is for it's price range.
Huh.... the higher ups are all stingy and won't allow spending 7000$ to buy 100x3850 Semrpons or A4-4000 + 100x160GB HDDs and 100x2GB DDR3... We are running on Pentium 4,Athlon 3000+,Atoms and some other 10yold, stuff takes 1 hour to copy 1 GB of files to a USB stick.


Ontopic : shouldn't AMD be able to file right away a lawsuit for image tarnishing ?
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shouldn't AMD be able to file right away a lawsuit for image tarnishing ?

AMD would have to prove that there were actual financial damages that can be directly traced to the news of the lawsuit to win a counter-claim for defamation. Since AMD's balance sheet has been deep in the red for the better part of a decade while this lawsuit was only filed in October, I really don't see how that's going to be a winning legal argument. Of course then there's the entire thing with AMD's brand image already being so tarnished before the lawsuit was filed that it makes the wreck of the Titanic look shiny and new. thumb.gif

AMD's best move is to try and get a quick summary judgment in their favor on this class-action case and leaving things at that, as filing a counter-suit would only cost them more money (lawyers, court fees, etc.) and make AMD look petty and vengeful in doing so. They ought to win on the merits anyhow as there's really no industry-standard definition of a "core", which is all that should matter in legal matters such as this. The mere fact that AMD decided to make Bulldozer with modules containing two Siamese-twin "cores" with too many shared resources and comparatively abysmal performance isn't a sufficient legal argument to prevail in this matter.
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AMD would have to prove that there were actual financial damages that can be directly traced to the news of the lawsuit to win a counter-claim for defamation. Since AMD's balance sheet has been deep in the red for the better part of a decade while this lawsuit was only filed in October, I really don't see how that's going to be a winning legal argument. Of course then there's the entire thing with AMD's brand image already being so tarnished before the lawsuit was filed that it makes the wreck of the Titanic look shiny and new. thumb.gif

AMD's best move is to try and get a quick summary judgment in their favor on this class-action case and leaving things at that, as filing a counter-suit would only cost them more money (lawyers, court fees, etc.) and make AMD look petty and vengeful in doing so. They ought to win on the merits anyhow as there's really no industry-standard definition of a "core", which is all that should matter in legal matters such as this. The mere fact that AMD decided to make Bulldozer with modules containing two Siamese-twin "cores" with too many shared resources and comparatively abysmal performance isn't a sufficient legal argument to prevail in this matter.
Explained in short and more or less what i wanted to hear, instead of wondering which can be considered true from the 25 pages here. Also, what about the brand image ? If you mean stuff like "what people would choose between red, green and blue based on what they heard", yes i agree, but if its something else please specify.
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You guys still on about this... rolleyes.gif
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Pretty much.

A hyper thread is more of a core than what Bulldozer is.

Let's face it, if Intel pulled the same logic and started listing the i7's as OctoCores, AMD would have a vein burst in their head.

Just for your future reference, veins in the brain are not pressurized and only burst under conditions where pathology or injury are present.

AMD would have an artery burst in their head is what would happen tongue.gif
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"I bought a cheap bulldozer, got something in a tin box" biggrin.gif

AMD does spend more on their packaging and as such you get superior packaging with AMD compared to Intel. That is where the superiority ends but just wanted to elaborate on your post.
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Huh.... the higher ups are all stingy and won't allow spending 7000$ to buy 100x3850 Semrpons or A4-4000 + 100x160GB HDDs and 100x2GB DDR3... We are running on Pentium 4,Athlon 3000+,Atoms and some other 10yold, stuff takes 1 hour to copy 1 GB of files to a USB stick.


Ontopic : shouldn't AMD be able to file right away a lawsuit for image tarnishing ?

If it's a corporate lawsuit defending against another company, yes. I think there are some laws that prevent a larger company from causing lash outs on smaller people.
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AMD does spend more on their packaging and as such you get superior packaging with AMD compared to Intel. That is where the superiority ends but just wanted to elaborate on your post.

I think it's just a mark of demonstrating quality. They really loved their processor when they worked on it. AMD does a lot of passionate things, and fails. It's kinda like the average Joe person resembled by a company. Joe is down on his luck and he thinks that this new idea Zen will break the ice with his other colleagues, Intel and Arm.
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