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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Pretty much.

A hyper thread is more of a core than what Bulldozer is.

Let's face it, if Intel pulled the same logic and started listing the i7's as OctoCores, AMD would have a vein burst in their head.
Wait! i7's don't come with more cores than i5? doh.gif
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Wait! i7's don't come with more cores than i5? doh.gif

Apparently sharing the integer core as well as literally everything else but the decoder make Intel's SMT implementation more independent than AMD's partially-shared resources.

I don't get it.

EDIT: Although to be pedantic, yes, i7s do come with more cores than i5s. In the laptop space, quad-core i7s were introduced with Sandy while quad-core i5s have only just launched with Skylake. In the desktop space, LGA-2011 i7s have as many or more cores than any LGA-115# chip including i5s. upsidedwnsmiley.gif
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what's next, suing AMD because their microprocessors aren't "advanced" like the company name implies? it's amazing how much frivolous **** the court systems will field. guess everyone needs to stay busy.
"I bought a cheap bulldozer, got something in a tin box" biggrin.gif
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Apparently sharing the integer core as well as literally everything else but the decoder make Intel's SMT implementation more independent than AMD's partially-shared resources.

I don't get it.

EDIT: Although to be pedantic, yes, i7s do come with more cores than i5s. In the laptop space, quad-core i7s were introduced with Sandy while quad-core i5s have only just launched with Skylake. In the desktop space, LGA-2011 i7s have as many or more cores than any LGA-115# chip including i5s. upsidedwnsmiley.gif
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It's 8 Core depend on how you use.8 Int + 4 FP (256bit) or 8 Int + 8 FP (128bit)


Edited by Xuper - 11/6/15 at 10:19am
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WOW! Blatantly stupid lawsuit. It's eight cores, yes slower cores, but still eight cores. Modules are only a way to package multiple cores into a die for the convience of adding more modules to package more cores. Fit more in less space.

While FX is pretty slow in performance to modern day chips it did compare against it's last years counterpart.

Chips do not degrade in performance if you're properly voltaging them. Heck even the mobo could be dying.
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It's 8 Core depend on how you use.8 Int + 1 FP (256bit) or 8 Int + 2 FP (128bit)

Nothing new.
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Since AMD hyped BD to be an advanced design, could it be the reason why this genius is suing AMD now after 4 years
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Originally Posted by Ding Chavez View Post

IMO a core is a complete CPU which can do what a CPU normally does, which means both FPU and integer unit not just integer. BD has 4 cores plus 4 extra integer units I don't think it is a proper 8 cores. So in a way it's false advertising at least.

 

I see , you're using Intel definition.Exactly what is Core?

 

 

In this Steamroller's Module ,I see 2 Decode Unit with 2 Int unit and one FP unit.on other hand , this is wrong:

Quote:
 BD has 4 cores plus 4 extra integer units

Edited by Xuper - 11/6/15 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ding Chavez View Post

IMO a core is a complete CPU which can do what a CPU normally does, which means both FPU and integer unit not just integer. BD has 4 cores plus 4 extra integer units I don't think it is a proper 8 cores. So in a way it's false advertising at least.

Pretty much.

A hyper thread is more of a core than what Bulldozer is.

Let's face it, if Intel pulled the same logic and started listing the i7's as OctoCores, AMD would have a vein burst in their head.

Probably because HT has nothing to do with the core and is the scheduler/decoder only. Derp. It doesn't even run two threads at the same time, it just fills the pipeline so the core doesn't stop and wait.

Also you can have any opinion you want, but this is not an opinion based topic. BD's design can process eight individual 256-bit integer or 128-bit floating threads in a single cycle. That makes it an 8-core.
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It's 8 Core depend on how you use.8 Int + 4 FP (256bit) or 8 Int + 8 FP (128bit)

Yup.
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