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Hey everyone. I'm thinking of getting the 950 Pro, and using it as the main/boot drive in my build. I've got a few questions first.

I've heard that it "thermal throttles," or at the least gets very hot. My motherboard runs pretty darn warm as it is now, because of my build and case. Idles at around 40C, and during games and such it can get up to almost 60C. Seeing as the SSD gets placed right between the GPU and CPU socket, what are the chances my motherboard is going to heat up significantly, as well as the SSD?

Secondly, does the drive come with the screw meant for mounting it?

Third, does anyone know when/if 1TB versions will be available?

Lastly, does anyone use this an ASRock X99e-ITX/ac motherboard? I'd like to use it, as mentioned, for the main drive in my build. I've tried reading around and see it seems possible, but using XMP profiles causes the NVMe drives to drop speed. So, I'm not sure how to get around this.
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:)With regards to throttling, my 950 would reach temps of 75c+ on an atto test before I fitted four memory ram heat sinks.

IT now idles at 33c(room temp 23c and under heavy load never goes above 55c. So no more throttling.
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:)With regards to throttling, my 950 would reach temps of 75c+ on an atto test before I fitted four memory ram heat sinks.

IT now idles at 33c(room temp 23c and under heavy load never goes above 55c. So no more throttling.
I won't have the space to fit it with heatsinks. But if I'm using it not under stress tests, should it reach anywhere near that temperature?
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I won't have the space to fit it with heatsinks. But if I'm using it not under stress tests, should it reach anywhere near that temperature?



That would depend on what you use your PC for. If you are running disk intensive programs, then yes it will throttle.Also your ambient room temp and case temp will all play apart.
Any temp above 75c and it starts to throttle. At around 80c it will drop back to about 10% of full speed. If you go on to Samsungs web site and look at the white paper for the 950 Pro it tells you what to expect performance wise at different temps.
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Plenty other drives installed. But there's no way an X58 chipset should be able to boot from the 950 Pro, as this chipset simply has no NVM support at all. And yet it does. smile.gif

Ran into one snare, though, with Magician 4.9.7: "This ssd does not support os optimization." Wut now?! That's no good.

Point was, you may not actually be "booting" from the 950 Pro. I have seen where a non-NVMe drive installed in the same PC as an NVMe one, even on X99, would somehow take the role of boot sector while Windows is installed on the 950 Pro. It can happen. I suspect as much even on your older chipset, this could be the case.
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That would depend on what you use your PC for. If you are running disk intensive programs, then yes it will throttle.Also your ambient room temp and case temp will all play apart.
Any temp above 75c and it starts to throttle. At around 80c it will drop back to about 10% of full speed. If you go on to Samsungs web site and look at the white paper for the 950 Pro it tells you what to expect performance wise at different temps.
Well, I won't be using it for tasks that will really eat up the SSD bandwidth. Aside from maybe recording gameplay, but, I doubt that will heat up the SSD as bad as say a stress test would.
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Point was, you may not actually be "booting" from the 950 Pro. I have seen where a non-NVMe drive installed in the same PC as an NVMe one, even on X99, would somehow take the role of boot sector while Windows is installed on the 950 Pro. It can happen. I suspect as much even on your older chipset, this could be the case.

No, honestly, the P6X58D Premium was booting from the 950 Pro. smile.gif (Especially since I disconnected the old 850 Pro, for the test; and the rest is only non-bootable data discs).

I read it's a bit of a toss-up: some older mothereboards can, some can't.
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Point was, you may not actually be "booting" from the 950 Pro. I have seen where a non-NVMe drive installed in the same PC as an NVMe one, even on X99, would somehow take the role of boot sector while Windows is installed on the 950 Pro. It can happen. I suspect as much even on your older chipset, this could be the case.

You could take some time reading older posts of me and others, with links and results from Legacy systems (X58,P45,990FX) with non-NVME compatible bioses,successfully booting from single 950 Pro, without any other drives connected.
The 950 Pro firmware has probably a Legacy compatibility implementation, so as to be recognized from such systems.
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@Wolftame Why not? They look like they fit just fine.
The M.2 is 22 mm wide, slightly less for the actual chips, 14 mm will not cover the chips they need to cool.
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:)With regards to throttling, my 950 would reach temps of 75c+ on an atto test before I fitted four memory ram heat sinks.

IT now idles at 33c(room temp 23c and under heavy load never goes above 55c. So no more throttling.
Same values I get smile.gif 4 alu heatsinks stuck on with thermal paste, never been above 56c even under stress tests. No detectable throttling in the test results.
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