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So, I must ask, since the Steam Machine is meant for gaming mostly (well, Steam duh) how many games will it actually run compared to current gen consoles? rolleyes.gif

It's not always about power, it's also about usability in terms of gaming since he felt the need to compare it to consoles in the first place.
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Originally Posted by MadRabbit View Post

So, I must ask, since the Steam Machine is meant for gaming mostly (well, Steam duh) how many games will it actually run compared to current gen consoles? rolleyes.gif

It's not always about power, it's also about usability in terms of gaming since he felt the need to compare it to consoles in the first place.

You should count AAA titles and exclusives. Almost all the SteamOS titles are Indie. It's basically a glorified OUYA with more potential.
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You should count AAA titles and exclusives. Almost all the SteamOS titles are Indie. It's basically a glorified OUYA with more potential.

Okay, that aside then.

Does their support also outperform Sony's and MS's? You know, that's one very important part to consider as well. They take 2 months to reply to some tickets on Steam already, thanks but no thanks when I can livechat with Sony's support within 3 minutes usually.
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You should count AAA titles and exclusives. Almost all the SteamOS titles are Indie. It's basically a glorified OUYA with more potential.

Yeah: many people don't want to buy it since there are next to 0 AAA games for Linux, there are next to 0 AAA games for Linux because the user base is next to 0... hopefully these will push devs to the Linux platform instead of just Windows/OS X. Valve is definitely taking a risk and I hope it pays off for them.

http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux
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Yeah: many people don't want to buy it since there are next to 0 AAA games for Linux, there are next to 0 AAA games for Linux because the user base is next to 0... hopefully these will push devs to the Linux platform instead of just Windows/OS X. Valve is definitely taking a risk and I hope it pays off for them.

http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux
Wrong, it is just there for scorched earth policy. Valve has "zero" reason to foster the Linux environment. They have Steam for sales and they just intend to keep their customers within their ecosystem. No proprietary hardware, more sales through their channel. Quite nifty, indeed.
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Wrong, it is just there for scorched earth policy. Valve has "zero" reason to foster the Linux environment. They have Steam for sales and they just intend to keep their customers within their ecosystem. No proprietary hardware, more sales through their channel. Quite nifty, indeed.

Through their channel instead of Microsoft's so there isn't 0 reason... http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/09/gabe-newell-linux-is-the-future-of-gaming-new-hardware-coming-soon/
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They should have released the steam controller and the steam link first so that people would get used to using the controller and get familiar with the steamOS... and then drawn up a design on a SINGLE unified steam machine. I remember a reviewer talking about this not too long ago. These are just prebuilt PC's with some logo tax. No machine specific optimizations, no economies of scale, limited game support (in regards to AAA games and exclusives), and the same consumer confusion that encompasses PC gaming to begin with (upgrades, driver updates incompatibilities etc...). These "steam machines" have literally accomplished nothing in terms of bridging the gap between PC's and consoles.

It would probably have taken developers no time at all to make a steam machine specific setting that would ensure the game ran ok on the device... but with so many different options it's no different than how games are released on PC now.....
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So, I must ask, since the Steam Machine is meant for gaming mostly (well, Steam duh) how many games will it actually run compared to current gen consoles? rolleyes.gif

It's not always about power, it's also about usability in terms of gaming since he felt the need to compare it to consoles in the first place.

You realize that them selling these machines is just a way of them selling their OS, right? These machines are just regular PCs
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You realize that them selling these machines is just a way of them selling their OS, right? These machines are just regular PCs

Then there shouldn't have been no point in comparing those to consoles.
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Through their channel instead of Microsoft's so there isn't 0 reason... http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/09/gabe-newell-linux-is-the-future-of-gaming-new-hardware-coming-soon/
Well, if you take the bite, you discharge yourself from the actual proprietary console ecosystem is their logic. There aren't very many digital showcases and they have increased chances for a sale. They are profiteering both in pc's and their supposedly proprietary off-the-shelf steambox'es. That's the ruse against actual consoles that they will offer equal benefits which they don't, judging by their driver development efforts that didn't progress much after Kepler... in the off chance you install Windows on it due to frustration which they counted upon and since since the parts conform, you end up in their Steam virtual distribution channels where Valve wanted you to be all along... rolleyes.gif
PS: How Lord Gaben says annually decreasing pc sales is also hilarious, considering the SteamBox device is itself a pc.
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