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post #11 of 28
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at very low speeds (1 pixel at a time, drawing a figure 8 or something in paint) both 3366 and am010 feel much better than mlt04, i believe due to the deadzoning thing
once you get up to typical low speeds, like controlling recoil in cs, imo mlt04 feels a bit more "natural" to use, if that makes any sense.

Maybe it's the rest mode transition that make it feel that way?

I skimmed over the MLT document. It says something about only using a portion of the frame and a single buffer. Then something about zones that determine when to add a new frame into the memory. Does this make the sensor feel more consistent than using the full frame and low FPS, then transitioning to a MLT type method?
post #12 of 28
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wat
d2f-01fs?
i wonder why they didn't keep those for the mlt04 wmo
It's IO not WMO. x06/x08 IO1.1 and IE3.0 had D2Fs instead of D2FCs. Btw old IO was on 4 screws like IE and had better build quality. Felt very solid, had no squeaks on squeezes and much better side buttons.
post #13 of 28
Not true, I have the x05, x06, x08, and x80 models of the IMO1.1, and all of them only have 2 screws underneath the two bottom feet. They were definitely made of more sturdy materials on the older models though
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

Maybe it's the rest mode transition that make it feel that way?

I skimmed over the MLT document. It says something about only using a portion of the frame and a single buffer. Then something about zones that determine when to add a new frame into the memory. Does this make the sensor feel more consistent than using the full frame and low FPS, then transitioning to a MLT type method?
i didnt move so slowly that the sensor would enter rest mode

i haven't thoroughly read any of these patents yet
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post #15 of 28
what I find most interesting is that they really do throw away new frames entirely if they don't have enough difference

I figured that would probably cause problems, but it apparently doesn't!
post #16 of 28
It's actually quite ideal, as it prevents pixel walk/deadzone issues. If the sensor always used the previous frame as the reference frame for correlation, you could move the mouse slower than 1 count per frame across a surface without it registering a single count. You would also get some really heavy angle snapping at low count speeds.
post #17 of 28
No see I figured it would cause problems with rotation or exposure adjustment

>If the sensor always used the previous frame as the reference frame for correlation, you could move the mouse slower than 1 count per frame across a surface without it registering a single count

You would have to move it slower than whatever subpixel precision it has. Subpixel precision is better below 1 raster per frame of movement than it is above it, too. High DPIs in modern mice definitely break based on subpixel precision rather than raster precision.
post #18 of 28
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Not true, I have the x05, x06, x08, and x80 models of the IMO1.1, and all of them only have 2 screws underneath the two bottom feet. They were definitely made of more sturdy materials on the older models though
It's true. I had 2 of this kind. Unfortunately I was young and stupid those days and sold them. Can't tell you the model but I'm not a lier.

To think about it maybe that was Avago/Agilent IOs. I've never actually disassembled them.
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post #19 of 28
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It's true. I had 2 of this kind. Unfortunately I was young and stupid those days and sold them. Can't tell you the model but I'm not a lier.

To think about it maybe that was Avago/Agilent IOs. I've never actually disassembled them.

I have the models now with an x06 dating back to 51st week of 2001. Two screws. No dates printed on the x05 (avago/agilent) but also two screws. Maybe on even earlier models, but doesn't make sense because the entire front of the mouse would need to be structured differently. All IMO1.1 are held together with two plastic "dogbones" on the side right below the side buttons
post #20 of 28
Back into pc gaming after a long break. Keep reading about the mlt04 preferance and I'm wondering if the MS blue optical is included with these famed mice or was it the ugly duckling of the bunch? I have one from back in the day, but only got it because friends said it was good at the time.
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