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post #1 of 31
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Hi!

I'm looking at an overdue upgrade and have been thinking about these:
Schiit Modi DAC - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SCCSJVA?colid=X2KJJB50V2X1&coliid=IGCCCUT4JQX2E&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
and
Schiit Magni amp - http://www.amazon.com/Schiit-SCH-07-Magni-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00CICPMA6

and one of these headphones (or alternative within the same price range ~150$:
1] Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011UB9CQ?colid=X2KJJB50V2X1&coliid=I2IVZVDSZQ25TG&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl

or

2] AKG Q 701 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004444O3W?colid=X2KJJB50V2X1&coliid=I1CRI34D1EP2CZ&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl


Currently I'm using Corsair 1500v2, received as a gift couple of years ago and never bothered to look at anything else since, because I'm not that picky, I guess, but they're about to die so might as well get something "decent". Will use it for gaming mostly, but also movies and music ( various genres).
How much sound do these headphones leak, as they are open/semi-open, compared to closed ? Would I bother people around me in the middle of the night, when playing games?

EDIT: Forgot to link the amp biggrin.gif

EDIT 2: @TheHorse Honest mistake, apologies!
Edited by GetToTheChopaa - 11/8/15 at 1:57pm
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post #2 of 31
A pure DAC like Modi doesn't work with headphones if you don't also have a headphone amplifier like Magni.
Schiit Fulla has both the DAC and amp features.

The open-back headphones leak as much sound as your current headphones when you are not wearing them on your head.
Edited by Tiihokatti - 11/8/15 at 1:20pm
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Do you have an amp to go along with that DAC? The headphones you listed will definitely need one if you want to realize their full potential. If you need one, I would actually go buy an odac + o2 combo, and massdrop is selling one for $200. The drop ends in 10 hours, PM me if you have questions since I bought one to replace my fiio e7+e9. It is similar to the JDS Labs limited edition version which went for $349 when it was available.

Edit~ Here is the guest link: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-o2-odac?mode=guest_open
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My mistake, I meant a Modi/ Magni combo! Ooops! Tiihokatti, that Fulla looks like a very good deal for someone like me. Also, If that's how much they leak, I'm good! I don't pump the volume that high anyway, except on rare occasions. ghabhaducha, I don't want to go more than ~150 on the amp/dac. I'm sure that whatever I end up getting it will be better than what I'm used to by orders of magnitude! It's the headphone that I can't decide on...
These are another option: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x - http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR86
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Did you purposely misspell schiit just because you wanted to be naughty?
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Did you purposely misspell schiit just because you wanted to be naughty?

biggrin.gif Fixed that! I seriously didn't realize it until I read your post! I heard how the name came up to be and it's pretty funny!
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Where are you finding the modi/magni combo for $150? Also, from my research, the design implementation found in the o2+odac makes it one of the best, if not THE best dac/amp's below $xxxx. Google the creator, "NwAvGuy", and read his story, it's quite interesting; he's almost like Batman of the audiophile community, lmao. The way I see it, you want to get something that lasts you without the need for upgrades (regardless of whether you upgrade the headphones to something or not). When I first started out, the o2+odac wasn't readily available, so I bought a Fiio E7+E9 in 2011, and it's still working perfectly 4 years later. Given the price on the massdrop o2+odac, I decided to just sell off my E7+E9, and upgrade to this one. The modi/magni combo you are interested in is also a solid combo, for me however, I preferred to have a single unit. Having said that, the advantage to that schiit combo, is that you can upgrade the dac or amp individually at a later time.

I have owned a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50 since late 2011, and I have absolutely loved them. Keep an eye on slickdeals, they have some terrific combos on the newer ATH-M50x's


Edit~ The Schiit Fulla seems like a neat little unit. It reminds me of the Fiio E7 when I first saw it.
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The way I see it, you want to get something that lasts you without the need for upgrades (regardless of whether you upgrade the headphones to something or not).

Exactly that! I'm never gonna be an audiophile, or whatever it's called.. Hi-Fi, Schmi-Fi! Sorry don't mean to offend anyone, that's just how I am. I just want something decent, without selling some of my organs.. I don't have anything else to upgrade at the moment and since the current headphones are crapping on me, might as well... I got an Magni 2 for 60 on Craigslist and I'm sure I can get a Modi for less than 100, so that's where 150 came from.
Black Friday might give some good opportunities to grab a pair of headphones at a good price as well.

EDIT Besides the fact that the Modi/Magni are highly regarded at this price point, I decided on this combo because I really like the understated, "industrial" aesthetics. I'm very particular about aesthetics, provided functionality parameters are met, of course.
Edited by GetToTheChopaa - 11/8/15 at 2:34pm
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Makes sense. No offense taken. I'm not one of those crabby audiophiles....I still believe in practicality smile.gif I bought my HD 580's for $95 off of ebay back in 2011, and I have been using them since. Just because I appreciate good audio, doesn't mean I want to sell a kidney. And most importantly, at the end of the day, I still believe that you should buy whatever makes you happy! This includes aesthetic choices. Those are some great prices! Keep an eye on marketplace sales on Head-Fi and even OCN/Hardforum, perhaps you will find a Modi for a decent price. Glad to see that you are alright with secondhand products, most of the time half the argument with recommending new products involves convincing people to purchase used gear (why pay depreciation when you don't have to?)

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Keep us posted.

Well, then I guess that makes me as audiophile as you are, at heart at least... biggrin.gif I have zero problem buying used PC parts, I'll gladly pay half the price for a good condition used item. My GTX 980, bought for 300 on CL, EVGA 1200P2, Amazon warehouse deal for 140, open box Gigabyte X99 UD5 for 140 at MC, etc, etc. It took tons of effort to convince friends that wanted me to build them gaming PCs, to buy used rolleyes.gif They caved in, because I didn't give up (I'm a good friend, I know lachen.gif ) At the moment I'm leaning towards the Audio Technica ATH-M50x, but we'll see...
One question though, since Audio Technica ATH M50x is a closed design, how much of a difference would it be between the soundstage of an open headphone like the Beyerdynamic DT-990 or AKG Q701, assuming that these are relatively in the same general area as far as sound quality goes?
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