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I think we should focus on virtual experiments in this particular field.

We need to shift focus back to educating our children, starting with growing a sense of security. Our government needs to stop lining the pockets of rich people with money that belongs in the middle class. No more lobbying (legal bribery via corporate election funding.) No more international slave labor goods trading. Improve the quality of life in the United States and we'll see people investing in themselves again.
Education will follow suit, new energy and computing solutions will emerge more quickly and soon enough we'll be able to do some proper virtual experiments to get around these obvious moral issues.

I'm as excited as the next guy about this, but we can't go doing it before we're absolutely sure what it is that we're doing.

Fix the real problems.

 

Virtual experiments are only as good as you can model them. And you need real life data in the first place to make those mathematical models. And anyhow, I agree with the scientists. Current research is stagnating due to restrictions on that exact research. That is a very real problem. You can't just look at the now. You have to look at the future too.

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Cows/pigs/chickens/fish have consciousness too. Imagine if they gained the ability to communicate the fact that they've been systematically bred and slaughtered for millions of years when all they wanted was to live a peacful life with their family. I would like to see that day but I doubt many other people on here would.

 

A good chef can already make a dish talk. ;)

 

Every living thing can have a consciousness so when the trees and crops start talking what will we eat. :p 

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Anyone think of Full Metal Alchemist?
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Anyone think of Full Metal Alchemist?

  

Indeed :thumb:

 

*was waiting for that"

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Anyone think of Full Metal Alchemist?

 

I did.

 

Although I freaking hated the show.

   
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Do you know how many cats and dogs are put to death in pounds everyday?

Do you know how many people die everday that could be saved?

So fanatics can cut peoples heads off, yet a dammed hybrid creation we cant do it to better ourselfs.

This is just horse****,

Hey instead of killing thousands of cats and dogs a day why not experiment on them and then kill them. They are going to die anyway...

Seriously people grow up and look at the world around you, the earth is not a be merry and praceful place. Our world is one of kill or be killed.

Only blind stupidity on this scale can hold back progress...
Edited by nyxagamemnon - 11/10/15 at 12:49pm
post #27 of 92
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Cows/pigs/chickens/fish have consciousness too. Imagine if they gained the ability to communicate the fact that they've been systematically bred and slaughtered for millions of years when all they wanted was to live a peacful life with their family. I would like to see that day but I doubt many other people on here would.

To differing degrees, sure. And yeah, that would be really freaking surreal... imagine finally communicating with marine mammals and all we hear from them is that we should systematically kill ourselves for our crimes against nature. lol

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A good chef can already make a dish talk. wink.gif

lol mmm Beef. And bacon. For that matter, dog is tender and tastes kinda like beef. lol

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Only blind stupidity on this scale can hold back progress...

What are the long term hereditary effects from potential intercellular communication / inter-species horizontal gene transfer?

If you're a non-GMO food type of person, this question should bother you way more than the GMO debate.
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All the gene specialists in this thread, incredible biggrin.gif

Allow me to copy and paste a recent post i made...




'How dare you!! Every member of this site is a rocket scientist and a lawyer in their spare time! They are also professional game designers and software engineers. Not to mention master of everything else they read on Wikipedia...

Plus they are all druid ninja green beret assassins, so if you talk crap they will hack you and find out where you live so they can assassinate you!"

Enjoy!
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A good chef can already make a dish talk. wink.gif

Every living thing can have a consciousness so when the trees and crops start talking what will we eat. tongue.gif  

There's a difference between eating a ripe apple that falls off a tree and murdering a cow. Nice try buddy but theres lots to eat that nature gives up freely.
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'How dare you!! Every member of this site is a rocket scientist and a lawyer in their spare time! They are also professional game designers and software engineers. Not to mention master of everything else they read on Wikipedia...

Plus they are all druid ninja green beret assassins, so if you talk crap they will hack you and find out where you live so they can assassinate you!"

Enjoy!

Nah, I'm just some random idiot who has learned all too well that sometimes even the most intelligent people don't have the patience or foresight to avoid disaster caused by pride and desire. Scientists have new toys to play with so they want to play with them.

I agree they should allow research. But it isn't a one-sided debate by any means. However, worrying about animals gaining human consciousness is a stupid argument.
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